Re: [DNSOP] "anything goes" (was Re: Should we try to work on DNS over HTTP in dnsop?)

[joel jaeggli <[e-mail]>]

On 12/18/15 10:07 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 08:36:00PM -0800, Paul Vixie wrote:
>>
>> this is the new era of "anything goes" for DNS protocol development. as with client subnet, no 
>> matter how bad an idea is, if someone is already doing it, then the ietf documents that use.
>>
> 
> I am getting a little tired of this description.  If it's "anything
> goes" then we can just give up and go home.
> 
> Some people don't like client subnet.  I'm not too convinced that the
> architectural arguments against it are so good, but that's a different
> debate.
> 
> I'm much more concerned about snide remarks dismissing the serious
> efforts of people as "anything goes".  I think it's unfair, I think it
> pretends access to a trancendental goodness that (I am prepared to say
> _a priori_) no participant here has, and I think it needlessly
> disparages the good faith efforts of many people to make the Internet
> better in an environment where we don't all agree about what "better"
> is.  I think many of us stand improvement (I here include myself) at
> making our arguments less charged.

I think we dramatically better off, if we are willing to critically
consider the implications of proposals someplace and expose the record
of that, and I don't have a better location on offer then here.

> Best regards,
> 
> A (speaking, as usual, for myself only)
>