Re: [DNSOP] [Doh] New I-D: draft-reid-doh-operator

Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com> Mon, 11 March 2019 02:03 UTC

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From: Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [Doh] New I-D: draft-reid-doh-operator
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> Il 10 marzo 2019 alle 20.15 Ask Bjørn Hansen <ask@develooper.com>; ha scritto:
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>         > >         On Mar 9, 2019, at 10:48 PM, Warren Kumari < warren@kumari.net mailto:warren@kumari.net > wrote:
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> >         Also, I think that this topic would be better discussed in the DNSOP WG -  the DoH charter ( https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/doh/about/) talks about:
> >         "The primary focus of this working group is to develop a mechanism that
> >         provides confidentiality and connectivity between DNS clients (e.g., operating
> >         system stub resolvers) and recursive resolvers."
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>     I agree with this (and everything else you said).
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>     The new topics that are coming up all seem like they’d fit better in DNSOP or DPRIVE.
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For the sake of completeness, I will mention that I have also just posted a draft that tries to address the issues deriving from the adoption of encrypted DNS protocols, under the form of a best practice document for client applications:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dns-privacy/3ryu5BxcjRJO1-zeRXJaKIcIDUY

I decided that dprive was the right place for it, and I will briefly present it there, but I agree that the first discussion (even in a side meeting in Prague, if there is interest) would be where to deal with the topic within the IETF, and to which extent; it would make sense to have a single coordinated discussion rather than multiple parallel ones.

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