Re: [DNSOP] Alternative Special-Use TLD problem statement draft

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Wed, 06 April 2016 12:03 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:02:44 -0300
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Alternative Special-Use TLD problem statement draft
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Just speaking as an author, I (1) acknowledge your point, with which I
agree and (2) point out that what Philip described is nonetheless a problem
that ought to be mentioned in the problem statement, because cleaning up
after such a registration has been done is actually a hard problem, and so
we want to make sure that whatever solution we propose gives people a
better way to solve the initial registration problem so that they _don't_
register what they intend to be a special-use name under some TLD using the
normal TLD registration process.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 01:17:00PM +0200,
>  Philip Homburg <pch-dnsop@u-1.phicoh.com> wrote
>  a message of 43 lines which said:
>
> > In fact, there is quite a bit of history already in some programming
> > languages (for example java) to just register a DNS domain to get a
> private
> > part of the global name space.
> >
> > So anybody who wants to play with an experimental naming service can just
> > register my-naming-service.net. And use that string in any name switch
> code.
>
> Strong dissensus here. The problem is there is no safe way to have AND
> KEEP such a name. You depend on the registry's policy, which may suit
> you or not, and, if the registry uses RRR, you depend on the
> registrar's behavior. One mistake by Go Daddy or Network Solutions and
> you lose your namespace. One complaint to a private "court" such as
> UDRP and you lose your namespace.
>
> It may work for a big company like Sun with a lot of lawyers. It does
> not for the typical free software project such as .onion or the people
> in the queue (.gnu, .bit, etc).
>
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