Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP
"James M. Polk" <jmpolk@cisco.com> Wed, 29 April 2009 21:21 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP
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Marc I do not believe the applicability statement is necessary, regardless of how well or poor it is written. The scope of this effort is clear - in the IETF community - and this is not an industry view of applicability, which is how I believe some are reacting as if it were. Were this applicability to remain, then every IETF ID and RFC would require one, as I know of no situation in which any communication is ever entirely comprised of IETF technologies (i.e., every communication has a layer 2 - which the IETF has no charge of - or is contained entirely within the same physical entity, in which it is rare that maintaining standards based protocols are necessary). There may be corner cases that I'm not thinking about - but I believe this is generally true. Therefore, I hum *no* to add this applicability statement. James At 01:23 PM 4/24/2009, Marc Linsner wrote: ><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-09.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-09.txt > > >At the San Francisco meeting and ensuing list threads, the last >issue around PhoneBCP was whether or not to include an >'applicability statement'. The hum during the meeting was >inconclusive. The draft editor has included text in this latest >version in an attempt to compromise on this issue. > >Please review this version and respond by Friday May 1 to the list >as to your acceptance of this change. > >Thanks, > >Marc, Hannes, & Roger >_______________________________________________ >Ecrit mailing list >Ecrit@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit
- [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Gabor.Bajko
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Stark, Barbara
- [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Stark, Barbara
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Gabor.Bajko
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Ray.Bellis
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Byron Smith
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP James M. Polk
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Thomson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Thomson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Thomson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Karl Heinz Wolf
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Elwell, John
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Roger Marshall
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Roger Marshall
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP -- are we there yet? Stark, Barbara
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP James M. Polk
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen