Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP
Marc Linsner <mlinsner@cisco.com> Wed, 29 April 2009 18:51 UTC
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:52:51 -0400
From: Marc Linsner <mlinsner@cisco.com>
To: Randall Gellens <randy@qualcomm.com>, ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP
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All, *Remember, this hum closes tomorrow (Friday, May 1). As I stated in an email on Monday. " This is a consolidated hum. If you don't agree that we need an applicability statement, hum against it. If you agree that we need an applicability statement, but don't like the current text, hum against it. If you agree with the statement as written, hum for it. If consensus is against the statement, it will be taken out of the draft. " I use the term 'applicability statement' as that was the term that originally started this discussion. It in no way implies the chairs desires. Changing the term now would cause an even bigger discussion, IMO. My hope is that everyone followed the discussion and makes their choice heard via this call for a hum. Thank you to those that have already expressed their choice. We still have the old version of the draft. If consensus fails as outlined above, we'll bring back the old version. -Marc- On 4/29/09 2:38 PM, "Randall Gellens" <randy@qualcomm.com> wrote: > There have been a couple of people asserting that the text in the > document was added without consensus. While it is certainly the > chairs' prerogative to call for consensus on this point, there was a > lot of discussion on the list five weeks ago. It certainly had > enough discussion then to warrant inclusion in a document version for > discussion. In fact, I think the current text is basically Richard's > take on a compromise that would get us past the deadlock we seem to > be revisiting.
- [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Gabor.Bajko
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Stark, Barbara
- [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Stark, Barbara
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Gabor.Bajko
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Ray.Bellis
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Byron Smith
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP James M. Polk
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Thomson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Thomson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Thomson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Karl Heinz Wolf
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Elwell, John
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Roger Marshall
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Roger Marshall
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP -- are we there yet? Stark, Barbara
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP James M. Polk
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen