Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP
"Brian Rosen" <br@brianrosen.net> Fri, 15 May 2009 12:10 UTC
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Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:12:09 -0400
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Since an increasing proportion of devices are used with location based services, that would seem to be incorrect. The text says "periodically" not "frequently", and the location you acquire is routing location, which is cell tower based for most mobiles. That is not in the least onerous. Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Randall Gellens [mailto:randy@qualcomm.com] > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 12:47 AM > To: Brian Rosen; 'DRAGE, Keith (Keith)'; 'Ted Hardie'; 'Marc Linsner'; > ecrit@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP > > At 9:37 PM -0400 5/14/09, Brian Rosen wrote: > > > Please cite an instance. > > > > We do not believe that the requirement for the endpoint to query the > LIS or > > the LoST server is onerous on any cellular network. In the scheme > of things > > that IP based devices (we are talking about IP connected devices, > not > > current GSM/CDMA systems) are expected to do, a HELD and LoST query > is very > > modest in bandwidth, code size and compute power. > > The instructions are for devices to determine their location when > powered on and frequently thereafter, and do LoST queries afterwards. > This may be fine for many devices, but not for cellphones.
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- [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
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- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
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- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
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- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Dawson, Martin
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- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Gabor.Bajko
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Ray.Bellis
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Byron Smith
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP James M. Polk
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Thomson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Thomson, Martin
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- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Karl Heinz Wolf
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
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- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Elwell, John
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Roger Marshall
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- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Edge, Stephen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP James M. Polk
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Ecrit] PhoneBCP Brian Rosen