Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt
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Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt
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Can we start WGLC? > On Aug 15, 2023, at 3:46 PM, Roger Marshall <Roger.Marshall@comtech.com> wrote: > > Great! Thank you Randall. > > -roger. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com <mailto:rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 11:56 AM > To: Roger Marshall <Roger.Marshall@comtech.com <mailto:Roger.Marshall@comtech.com>> > Cc: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net <mailto:br@brianrosen.net>>; Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com <mailto:superuser@gmail.com>>; ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org <mailto:ecrit@ietf.org>> > Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt > > > WARNING: External Email: Exercise Caution > > Dwight has agreed to shepherd the draft, but won't be able to start until the end of the month. > > --Randall > > On 15 Aug 2023, at 10:24, Roger Marshall wrote: > >> Please ask Dwight to shepherd. >> >> Thanks. >> >> -roger. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 10:13 AM >> To: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com> >> Cc: Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>; ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org>; >> Roger Marshall <Roger.Marshall@comtech.com> >> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: >> draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt >> >> >> WARNING: External Email: Exercise Caution >> >> I don't have the LoST-Sync changes in. I think we're going to have to >> do a larger fix to LoST Sync (signatures don't work as specified), and >> we'll do them there. >> >> In the first paragraph of Section 3, the text talks about 3 entry >> points. It expressly says "one" and "three" but refers to the second >> as "Another". The change suggested by Victor makes the numbering for >> "two" explicit. We can just go with what is there, or if there is >> another version to deal with comments we get in the approval process, >> I'll fix it then. >> >> Brian >> >> >>> On Aug 15, 2023, at 12:48 PM, Randall Gellens >>> <rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com> wrote: >>> >>> Brian, >>> >>> Are the changes you propose here reflected in -07? >>> >>> Can you remind me what "entry point numbering" means? >>> >>> Roger: You are listed as the shepherd. Are you able and willing to do >>> so or should I ask Dwight? >>> >>> --Randall >>> >>> Forwarded message: >>> >>>> From: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net> >>>> To: ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: >>>> draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt >>>> Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 15:14:17 -0400 >>>> >>>> I updated planned-changes to fix the typos reported by Victor. I >>>> managed to undo one of his requested edits (entry point numbering), >>>> which I will fix soon. If I missed anything else, please remind me. >>>> >>>> I propose to add another part to this document, which would be to >>>> add "AsOf" and "Expires" metadata to a LoST sync transaction, so a >>>> Forest Guide can do the same thing with planned changes as a LoST >>>> server could. >>>> >>>> Brian >>>> >>>> >>>>> On May 22, 2023, at 2:56 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>>>> directories. This Internet-Draft is a work item of the Emergency >>>>> Context Resolution with Internet Technologies (ECRIT) WG of the >>>>> IETF. >>>>> >>>>> Title : Validation of Locations Around a Planned Change >>>>> Author : Brian Rosen >>>>> Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt >>>>> Pages : 21 >>>>> Date : 2023-05-22 >>>>> >>>>> Abstract: >>>>> This document defines an extension to the Location to Service >>>>> Translation (LoST) protocol (RFC5222) that allows a LoSR server ti >>>>> notify a client of planned changes to the data. This extension is >>>>> only useful with the validation function of LoST. It is beneficial >>>>> for LoST validation clients to be aware of planned changes, as >>>>> records that previously were valid may become invalid at a known >>>>> future date, and new locations may become valid after the date. >>>>> This extension adds an element to the <findService> request: a >>>>> date that allows the LoST client to request that the server >>>>> perform validation as of the date specified. It adds an optional >>>>> Time-To-Live element to the response, which informs clients of the >>>>> current expected lifetime of a validation. 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- [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned… internet-drafts
- Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pla… Brian Rosen
- [Ecrit] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pl… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pla… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pla… Roger Marshall
- Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pla… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pla… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pla… Roger Marshall
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- Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pla… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pla… Brian Rosen