Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt

Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net> Tue, 15 August 2023 20:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt
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Can we start WGLC?

> On Aug 15, 2023, at 3:46 PM, Roger Marshall <Roger.Marshall@comtech.com> wrote:
> 
> Great! Thank you Randall.
> 
> -roger.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com <mailto:rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com>> 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 11:56 AM
> To: Roger Marshall <Roger.Marshall@comtech.com <mailto:Roger.Marshall@comtech.com>>
> Cc: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net <mailto:br@brianrosen.net>>; Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com <mailto:superuser@gmail.com>>; ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org <mailto:ecrit@ietf.org>>
> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt
> 
> 
> WARNING: External Email: Exercise Caution
> 
> Dwight has agreed to shepherd the draft, but won't be able to start until the end of the month.
> 
> --Randall
> 
> On 15 Aug 2023, at 10:24, Roger Marshall wrote:
> 
>> Please ask Dwight to shepherd.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> -roger.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 10:13 AM
>> To: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com>
>> Cc: Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>; ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org>; 
>> Roger Marshall <Roger.Marshall@comtech.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action:
>> draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt
>> 
>> 
>> WARNING: External Email: Exercise Caution
>> 
>> I don't have the LoST-Sync changes in.  I think we're going to have to 
>> do a larger fix to LoST Sync (signatures don't work as specified), and 
>> we'll do them there.
>> 
>> In the first paragraph of Section 3, the text talks about 3 entry 
>> points.  It expressly says "one" and "three" but refers to the second 
>> as "Another".  The change suggested by Victor makes the numbering for 
>> "two" explicit.  We can just go with what is there, or if there is 
>> another version to deal with comments we get in the approval process, 
>> I'll fix it then.
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2023, at 12:48 PM, Randall Gellens 
>>> <rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Brian,
>>> 
>>> Are the changes you propose here reflected in -07?
>>> 
>>> Can you remind me what "entry point numbering" means?
>>> 
>>> Roger: You are listed as the shepherd. Are you able and willing to do 
>>> so or should I ask Dwight?
>>> 
>>> --Randall
>>> 
>>> Forwarded message:
>>> 
>>>> From: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net>
>>>> To: ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action:
>>>> draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt
>>>> Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 15:14:17 -0400
>>>> 
>>>> I updated planned-changes to fix the typos reported by Victor.  I 
>>>> managed to undo one of his requested edits (entry point numbering), 
>>>> which I will fix soon.  If I missed anything else, please remind me.
>>>> 
>>>> I propose to add another part to this document, which would be to 
>>>> add "AsOf" and "Expires" metadata to a LoST sync transaction, so a 
>>>> Forest Guide can do the same thing with planned changes as a LoST 
>>>> server could.
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 22, 2023, at 2:56 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
>>>>> directories. This Internet-Draft is a work item of the Emergency 
>>>>> Context Resolution with Internet Technologies (ECRIT) WG of the 
>>>>> IETF.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Title           : Validation of Locations Around a Planned Change
>>>>> Author          : Brian Rosen
>>>>> Filename        : draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt
>>>>> Pages           : 21
>>>>> Date            : 2023-05-22
>>>>> 
>>>>> Abstract:
>>>>> This document defines an extension to the Location to Service 
>>>>> Translation (LoST) protocol (RFC5222) that allows a LoSR server ti 
>>>>> notify a client of planned changes to the data.  This extension is 
>>>>> only useful with the validation function of LoST.  It is beneficial 
>>>>> for LoST validation clients to be aware of planned changes, as 
>>>>> records that previously were valid may become invalid at a known 
>>>>> future date, and new locations may become valid after the date.
>>>>> This  extension adds an element to the <findService> request: a 
>>>>> date that  allows the LoST client to request that the server 
>>>>> perform validation  as of the date specified.  It adds an optional 
>>>>> Time-To-Live element  to the response, which informs clients of the 
>>>>> current expected  lifetime of a validation.  It also adds a 
>>>>> separate interface to the  LoST server that allows a client to poll 
>>>>> for planned changes.
>>>>> Additionally, this document provides a conventional XML schema for 
>>>>> LoST, as a backwards compatible alternative to the RelaxNG schema 
>>>>> in RFC5222.
>>>>> 
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