Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt

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From: Roger Marshall <Roger.Marshall@comtech.com>
To: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com>
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Great! Thank you Randall.

-roger.

-----Original Message-----
From: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 11:56 AM
To: Roger Marshall <Roger.Marshall@comtech.com>
Cc: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net>; Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>; ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt


WARNING: External Email: Exercise Caution

Dwight has agreed to shepherd the draft, but won't be able to start until the end of the month.

--Randall

On 15 Aug 2023, at 10:24, Roger Marshall wrote:

> Please ask Dwight to shepherd.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -roger.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 10:13 AM
> To: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com>
> Cc: Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>; ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org>; 
> Roger Marshall <Roger.Marshall@comtech.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action:
> draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt
>
>
> WARNING: External Email: Exercise Caution
>
> I don't have the LoST-Sync changes in.  I think we're going to have to 
> do a larger fix to LoST Sync (signatures don't work as specified), and 
> we'll do them there.
>
> In the first paragraph of Section 3, the text talks about 3 entry 
> points.  It expressly says "one" and "three" but refers to the second 
> as "Another".  The change suggested by Victor makes the numbering for 
> "two" explicit.  We can just go with what is there, or if there is 
> another version to deal with comments we get in the approval process, 
> I'll fix it then.
>
> Brian
>
>
>> On Aug 15, 2023, at 12:48 PM, Randall Gellens 
>> <rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com> wrote:
>>
>> Brian,
>>
>> Are the changes you propose here reflected in -07?
>>
>> Can you remind me what "entry point numbering" means?
>>
>> Roger: You are listed as the shepherd. Are you able and willing to do 
>> so or should I ask Dwight?
>>
>> --Randall
>>
>> Forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net>
>>> To: ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action:
>>> draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt
>>> Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 15:14:17 -0400
>>>
>>> I updated planned-changes to fix the typos reported by Victor.  I 
>>> managed to undo one of his requested edits (entry point numbering), 
>>> which I will fix soon.  If I missed anything else, please remind me.
>>>
>>> I propose to add another part to this document, which would be to 
>>> add "AsOf" and "Expires" metadata to a LoST sync transaction, so a 
>>> Forest Guide can do the same thing with planned changes as a LoST 
>>> server could.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
>>>> On May 22, 2023, at 2:56 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
>>>> directories. This Internet-Draft is a work item of the Emergency 
>>>> Context Resolution with Internet Technologies (ECRIT) WG of the 
>>>> IETF.
>>>>
>>>>  Title           : Validation of Locations Around a Planned Change
>>>>  Author          : Brian Rosen
>>>>  Filename        : draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt
>>>>  Pages           : 21
>>>>  Date            : 2023-05-22
>>>>
>>>> Abstract:
>>>>  This document defines an extension to the Location to Service 
>>>> Translation (LoST) protocol (RFC5222) that allows a LoSR server ti 
>>>> notify a client of planned changes to the data.  This extension is 
>>>> only useful with the validation function of LoST.  It is beneficial 
>>>> for LoST validation clients to be aware of planned changes, as 
>>>> records that previously were valid may become invalid at a known 
>>>> future date, and new locations may become valid after the date.
>>>> This  extension adds an element to the <findService> request: a 
>>>> date that  allows the LoST client to request that the server 
>>>> perform validation  as of the date specified.  It adds an optional 
>>>> Time-To-Live element  to the response, which informs clients of the 
>>>> current expected  lifetime of a validation.  It also adds a 
>>>> separate interface to the  LoST server that allows a client to poll 
>>>> for planned changes.
>>>>  Additionally, this document provides a conventional XML schema for 
>>>> LoST, as a backwards compatible alternative to the RelaxNG schema 
>>>> in RFC5222.
>>>>
>>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
>>>> https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fd
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