Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt
Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com> Tue, 15 August 2023 22:55 UTC
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Would you mind doing a rev to fix the numbering thing? It sounds like it's just a one-word edit, so should be super easy/fast to rev, and will avoid getting comments on it. --Randall On 15 Aug 2023, at 13:25, Brian Rosen wrote: > Can we start WGLC? > >> On Aug 15, 2023, at 3:46 PM, Roger Marshall >> <Roger.Marshall@comtech.com> wrote: >> >> Great! Thank you Randall. >> >> -roger. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com >> <mailto:rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com>> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 11:56 AM >> To: Roger Marshall <Roger.Marshall@comtech.com >> <mailto:Roger.Marshall@comtech.com>> >> Cc: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net <mailto:br@brianrosen.net>> ; >> Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com >> <mailto:superuser@gmail.com>> ; ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org >> <mailto:ecrit@ietf.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: >> draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt >> >> >> WARNING: External Email: Exercise Caution >> >> Dwight has agreed to shepherd the draft, but won't be able to start >> until the end of the month. >> >> --Randall >> >> On 15 Aug 2023, at 10:24, Roger Marshall wrote: >> >>> Please ask Dwight to shepherd. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> -roger. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 10:13 AM >>> To: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com> >>> Cc: Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>; ECRIT >>> <ecrit@ietf.org>; >>> Roger Marshall <Roger.Marshall@comtech.com> >>> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: >>> draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt >>> >>> >>> WARNING: External Email: Exercise Caution >>> >>> I don't have the LoST-Sync changes in. I think we're going to have >>> to >>> do a larger fix to LoST Sync (signatures don't work as specified), >>> and >>> we'll do them there. >>> >>> In the first paragraph of Section 3, the text talks about 3 entry >>> points. It expressly says "one" and "three" but refers to the >>> second >>> as "Another". The change suggested by Victor makes the numbering >>> for >>> "two" explicit. We can just go with what is there, or if there is >>> another version to deal with comments we get in the approval >>> process, >>> I'll fix it then. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> >>>> On Aug 15, 2023, at 12:48 PM, Randall Gellens >>>> <rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Brian, >>>> >>>> Are the changes you propose here reflected in -07? >>>> >>>> Can you remind me what "entry point numbering" means? >>>> >>>> Roger: You are listed as the shepherd. Are you able and willing to >>>> do >>>> so or should I ask Dwight? >>>> >>>> --Randall >>>> >>>> Forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net> >>>>> To: ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: >>>>> draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt >>>>> Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 15:14:17 -0400 >>>>> >>>>> I updated planned-changes to fix the typos reported by Victor. I >>>>> managed to undo one of his requested edits (entry point >>>>> numbering), >>>>> which I will fix soon. If I missed anything else, please remind >>>>> me. >>>>> >>>>> I propose to add another part to this document, which would be to >>>>> add "AsOf" and "Expires" metadata to a LoST sync transaction, so a >>>>> Forest Guide can do the same thing with planned changes as a LoST >>>>> server could. >>>>> >>>>> Brian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On May 22, 2023, at 2:56 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line >>>>>> Internet-Drafts >>>>>> directories. This Internet-Draft is a work item of the Emergency >>>>>> Context Resolution with Internet Technologies (ECRIT) WG of the >>>>>> IETF. >>>>>> >>>>>> Title : Validation of Locations Around a Planned Change >>>>>> Author : Brian Rosen >>>>>> Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt >>>>>> Pages : 21 >>>>>> Date : 2023-05-22 >>>>>> >>>>>> Abstract: >>>>>> This document defines an extension to the Location to Service >>>>>> Translation (LoST) protocol (RFC5222) that allows a LoSR server >>>>>> ti >>>>>> notify a client of planned changes to the data. This extension >>>>>> is >>>>>> only useful with the validation function of LoST. It is >>>>>> beneficial >>>>>> for LoST validation clients to be aware of planned changes, as >>>>>> records that previously were valid may become invalid at a known >>>>>> future date, and new locations may become valid after the date. >>>>>> This extension adds an element to the <findService> request: a >>>>>> date that allows the LoST client to request that the server >>>>>> perform validation as of the date specified. It adds an >>>>>> optional >>>>>> Time-To-Live element to the response, which informs clients of >>>>>> the >>>>>> current expected lifetime of a validation. 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- [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned… internet-drafts
- Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pla… Brian Rosen
- [Ecrit] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pl… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pla… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pla… Roger Marshall
- Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pla… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pla… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pla… Roger Marshall
- Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pla… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pla… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-pla… Brian Rosen