Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt

Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net> Wed, 16 August 2023 14:08 UTC

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> On Aug 15, 2023, at 6:55 PM, Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com> wrote:
> 
> Would you mind doing a rev to fix the numbering thing? It sounds like it's just a one-word edit, so should be super easy/fast to rev, and will avoid getting comments on it.
> 
> --Randall
> 
> On 15 Aug 2023, at 13:25, Brian Rosen wrote:
> 
> Can we start WGLC?
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2023, at 3:46 PM, Roger Marshall <Roger.Marshall@comtech.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Great! Thank you Randall.
>> 
>> -roger.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com <mailto:rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 11:56 AM
>> To: Roger Marshall <Roger.Marshall@comtech.com <mailto:Roger.Marshall@comtech.com>>
>> Cc: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net <mailto:br@brianrosen.net>>; Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com <mailto:superuser@gmail.com>>; ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org <mailto:ecrit@ietf.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt
>> 
>> 
>> WARNING: External Email: Exercise Caution
>> 
>> Dwight has agreed to shepherd the draft, but won't be able to start until the end of the month.
>> 
>> --Randall
>> 
>> On 15 Aug 2023, at 10:24, Roger Marshall wrote:
>> 
>>> Please ask Dwight to shepherd.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> -roger.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 10:13 AM
>>> To: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com>
>>> Cc: Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>; ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org>; 
>>> Roger Marshall <Roger.Marshall@comtech.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action:
>>> draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> WARNING: External Email: Exercise Caution
>>> 
>>> I don't have the LoST-Sync changes in.  I think we're going to have to 
>>> do a larger fix to LoST Sync (signatures don't work as specified), and 
>>> we'll do them there.
>>> 
>>> In the first paragraph of Section 3, the text talks about 3 entry 
>>> points.  It expressly says "one" and "three" but refers to the second 
>>> as "Another".  The change suggested by Victor makes the numbering for 
>>> "two" explicit.  We can just go with what is there, or if there is 
>>> another version to deal with comments we get in the approval process, 
>>> I'll fix it then.
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 15, 2023, at 12:48 PM, Randall Gellens 
>>>> <rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Brian,
>>>> 
>>>> Are the changes you propose here reflected in -07?
>>>> 
>>>> Can you remind me what "entry point numbering" means?
>>>> 
>>>> Roger: You are listed as the shepherd. Are you able and willing to do 
>>>> so or should I ask Dwight?
>>>> 
>>>> --Randall
>>>> 
>>>> Forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net>
>>>>> To: ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action:
>>>>> draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt
>>>>> Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 15:14:17 -0400
>>>>> 
>>>>> I updated planned-changes to fix the typos reported by Victor.  I 
>>>>> managed to undo one of his requested edits (entry point numbering), 
>>>>> which I will fix soon.  If I missed anything else, please remind me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I propose to add another part to this document, which would be to 
>>>>> add "AsOf" and "Expires" metadata to a LoST sync transaction, so a 
>>>>> Forest Guide can do the same thing with planned changes as a LoST 
>>>>> server could.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brian
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 22, 2023, at 2:56 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
>>>>>> directories. This Internet-Draft is a work item of the Emergency 
>>>>>> Context Resolution with Internet Technologies (ECRIT) WG of the 
>>>>>> IETF.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Title           : Validation of Locations Around a Planned Change
>>>>>> Author          : Brian Rosen
>>>>>> Filename        : draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-07.txt
>>>>>> Pages           : 21
>>>>>> Date            : 2023-05-22
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Abstract:
>>>>>> This document defines an extension to the Location to Service 
>>>>>> Translation (LoST) protocol (RFC5222) that allows a LoSR server ti 
>>>>>> notify a client of planned changes to the data.  This extension is 
>>>>>> only useful with the validation function of LoST.  It is beneficial 
>>>>>> for LoST validation clients to be aware of planned changes, as 
>>>>>> records that previously were valid may become invalid at a known 
>>>>>> future date, and new locations may become valid after the date.
>>>>>> This  extension adds an element to the <findService> request: a 
>>>>>> date that  allows the LoST client to request that the server 
>>>>>> perform validation  as of the date specified.  It adds an optional 
>>>>>> Time-To-Live element  to the response, which informs clients of the 
>>>>>> current expected  lifetime of a validation.  It also adds a 
>>>>>> separate interface to the  LoST server that allows a client to poll 
>>>>>> for planned changes.
>>>>>> Additionally, this document provides a conventional XML schema for 
>>>>>> LoST, as a backwards compatible alternative to the RelaxNG schema 
>>>>>> in RFC5222.
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
>>>>> w%2F&data=05%7C01%7CRoger.Marshall%40comtech.com <http://40comtech.com/>%7C808c1eacb43f40d2b
>>>>> c9408db9dc13f7b%7Ca9a26e696ae040c1bd801ca6cc677828%7C0%7C0%7C6382772
>>>>> 25545611091%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2lu
>>>>> MzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=fO9%2Fl3Zf%
>>>>> 2F%2FTEYvzFAj%2BLvZxx7HLwOUy0rtni2XM9Qj8%3D&reserved=0
>>>>> .ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fecrit&data=05%7C01%7CRoger.Marshall
>>>>> % 
>>>>> 40comtech.com%7C49e1d4d3486e41d5321608db9db2f4c7%7Ca9a26e696ae040c1b
>>>>> d 
>>>>> 801ca6cc677828%7C0%7C0%7C638277164177684769%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8
>>>>> e
>>>>> yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C
>>>>> 3 
>>>>> 000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=BL7XvskfYlSIda3q3jXHUyzPXHrCXfPwoBFrpU7Yzjs%3D&re
>>>>> s
>>>>> erved=0
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