[Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: [secdir] draft-ietf-emailcore-as-28 ietf last call Secdir review
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Subject: [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: [secdir] draft-ietf-emailcore-as-28 ietf last call Secdir review
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On Fri, May 1, 2026 at 12:24 PM Pete Resnick <resnick= 40episteme.net@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > On 1 May 2026, at 14:17, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > With respect to your specific question, I reviewed Viktor's recent > > messages > > and just am not really sure what points you think he made that need > > responses, as there seems to be quite a bit of material that I > > wouldn't > > really consider responsive. If you'd like to pick out specific points, > > I'd be > > happy to take a look. > > As I just responded to Rob, the primary objection seems to be that the > current text somehow prevents implementations from being written with > STARTTLS disabled completely, to which Viktor replied. Do you not think > that addresses the objection? If so, why? Or did I mischaracterize the > objection? > Hmm, I think you have it backward. The current text requires implementations to have a mode without STARTTLS being enforced. That's the objection I'm making. thanks, Rob
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- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: [secdir] Re: Re: … Rob Sayre
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- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… John R Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… Eliot Lear
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… John R Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: [secdir] draft-ie… Salz, Rich
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [secdir] draft-ietf-emailcore-as-… John C Klensin
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… John R Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: draft-ietf-em… Eliot Lear
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… John C Klensin
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: d… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: draft-ietf-em… Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: d… Pete Resnick
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… Eliot Lear
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: d… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… Viktor Dukhovni
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- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: draft-ietf-em… Pete Resnick
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- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: d… Pete Resnick
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… Ted Hardie
- [Emailcore] Re: [secdir] Re: draft-ietf-emailcore… Salz, Rich
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: d… Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: draft-ietf-emailc… John C Klensin
- [Emailcore] Re: [secdir] Re: draft-ietf-emailcore… Ken Murchison
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… S Moonesamy
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: d… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… Pete Resnick
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: draft… Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… John C Klensin
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: d… Pete Resnick
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… Salz, Rich
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: draft… Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: [secdir] draft-ie… Pete Resnick
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: [secdir] draf… Eric Rescorla
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: [secdir] draf… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: [secdir] draft-ie… Pete Resnick
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: [secdir] draf… Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: [secdir] draft-ie… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: [secdir] draf… Paul Wouters
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: [secdir] draft-ie… Pete Resnick
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: [secdir] draf… Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: [secdir] draf… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: [secdir] draft-ie… Rob Sayre
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- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: d… Viktor Dukhovni
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- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: [secdir] draft-ie… Eric Rescorla
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: [secdir] … Pete Resnick
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: [secdir] draf… Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [secdir] draft-ietf-emailcore-as-… John Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: draft-ietf-emailcore-as-28 ietf l… Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: [secd… Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: [secdir] draft-ie… Pete Resnick
- [Emailcore] Re: Process point (Was: draft-ietf-em… Pete Resnick
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: [secdir] … Viktor Dukhovni
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: [secdir] … Rob Sayre
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: draft-ietf-em… Martin J. Dürst
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- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: draft-iet… Martin J. Dürst
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- [Emailcore] Re: the worst except for all of the o… John Levine
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: [secdir] … Viktor Dukhovni
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- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: [secdir] draft-ie… Barry Leiba
- [Emailcore] Re: Process point (Was: draft-ietf-em… Eric Rescorla
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- [Emailcore] Re: [secdir] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: … Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: [secdir] draft-ie… Steffen Nurpmeso
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: d… Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: the worst except … Nico Williams
- [Emailcore] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: [secdir] … John Levine
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