Re: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT)
Richard Shockey <rshockey@ix.netcom.com> Fri, 23 February 2001 03:24 UTC
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:11:18 -0500
To: "A.M.Rutkowski" <amr@netmagic.com>, Stephane Alnet <salnet@cisco.com>, enum@ietf.org
From: Richard Shockey <rshockey@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT)
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At 09:44 PM 2/22/2001 -0500, A.M.Rutkowski wrote: >At 07:05 PM 2/22/2001, Richard Shockey wrote: >>TPC.INT was a useful experiment ..nothing more. > >Stephane, > >An alternative view. > >TPC.INT was not only an incredibly innovative protocol and use >of the Internet's distributed entrepreneurial properties by >two of the Internet's most celebrated developers, it was a >political statement if not movement heard around the world >when it was first announced at Interop in 1994. Really Marshall Rose is going to love this .. YO Marshall ..were you making a political statement or were you just trying to save a buck or two. >Lycos hotbot currently gets nearly 10,000 hits in every corner >of the globe for TPC.INT and its services are still relied >upon by a great many people, albeit apparently not by Richard. HA >> I would not equate hits on Lycos to use of service..... your expansion of reality to serve your narrow political interest continues to astound and amaze me. >The Phone Company's fax bypass and remote paging services >were a statement to the ITU and it's highly structured >PTO communities, that a set of autonomous entities could >independently organize themselves to provide telco >services. Needless to say, it caused considerable >consternation in some quarters that led to a subsequent >largely ITU Secretariat let effort to tuck some kind of >formal ITU designated e164 zone under INT. Are you really serious ... some smart guys wanted to save some money and have some fun in the process. >TPC.INT's leadership also inspired a broadbased >IP Telephony movement - the results of which we see >today. Pardon me list readers I have to go put my hip waders on to deal with this BS. >--tony >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Technical Industry Liaison NeuStar Inc. 1120 Vermont Avenue N.W., Suite 550, Washington DC. 20005 Voice: 202.533.2811, Cell : 314.503.0640, Fax: 815.333.1237 <mailto: rshockey@ix.netcom.com> or <mailto: rich.shockey@neustar.com> <http://www.neustar.com> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum
- [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT) Stephane Alnet
- Re: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT) Richard Shockey
- Re: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT) A.M.Rutkowski
- Re: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT) Richard Shockey
- Re: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT) David R. Conrad
- RE: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT) Shaw, Robert
- Re: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT) A.M.Rutkowski
- Re: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT) A.M.Rutkowski
- Re: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT) Marshall T. Rose
- Re: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT) Randy Bush
- Re: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT) A.M. Rutkowski
- Re: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT) Marshall T. Rose
- RE: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT) Shaw, Robert
- RE: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT) A.M. Rutkowski
- Re: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT) Bill Manning
- RE: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT) BARNOLE Valerie FTRD/DAC/ISS
- Re: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT) Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Enum] RFC1530 (TPC.INT) Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine