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Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-nottingham-where-does-that-come-from-00.txt

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Sat, 13 March 2021 08:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-nottingham-where-does-that-come-from-00.txt
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This having been said, I agree with Mark that this is a problem, that branding can help, and that the matter should get addressed.  Where it gets addressed is a matter of timing.  I really do hope that we can dispatch this work to the new WG-like structure that is being contemplated in the program.

Eliot

> On 13 Mar 2021, at 02:22, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 13-Mar-21 14:14, Salz, Rich wrote:
>> It’s silly to try and have one “official” place for RFC’s, and deprecate all other locations.  Even if it could be done, and I’d like to know why, we want these docs to be widely and freely available.
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> Yes, in fact I agree, see my reply to Keith.
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>   Brian
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