Re: [homenet] New Version Notification for draft-howard-homenet-routing-comparison-00.txt

Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> Mon, 16 January 2012 19:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] New Version Notification for draft-howard-homenet-routing-comparison-00.txt
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>>>>> "Acee" == Acee Lindem <acee.lindem@ericsson.com> writes:
    Acee> Hi Michael, Can you provided a precise definition of "walled
    Acee> garden", as well as, define the bi-directional connectivity
    Acee> rules with a few bullets (hopefully less than 5). I fear there
    Acee> may be more than one view of this (or possibly I'm the only
    Acee> one ;^).

I don't have a precise definition.
This is what I would advance:

  + A walled-garden network is provided by a service-specific internet
    service provider (SS/ISP) to a residential or small office.  
  + The service-specific connection is in the form of a dedicated WAN link into
    the dwelling. (The link may be physical or might be carried by a virtual
    layer-2).  Some dwellings may have only the service specific connection.
  + The service-specific connection provides access to a service
    (IPTV is a known example), and is not general Internet service.
  + The IPv6 service is reachable only using IPv6 from a block that the
    service-specific ISP will allocate to the residence using regular
    mechanism.  
  + The IPv6 service is numbered using globally unique IPv6 addresses,
    which are usually not accessible outside of the "garden", i.e. they
    are not routed in the global Default-Free Zone.
  + In IPv6, no special DNS tricks are required to make the clients
    systems pick the right target address.  Multiple AAAA records, 
    (possibly with walled-garden ACLs on authoritative servers) and
    happy eyeballs is enough.

A walled-garden is no different than a multiple ISPs in a residence,
except that general internet traffic does not transit that connection.

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