Re: [homenet] New Version Notification for draft-howard-homenet-routing-comparison-00.txt

> Can you provided a precise definition of "walled garden", as well as, define the bi-directional connectivity rules with a few bullets (hopefully less than 5). 
> I fear there may be more than one view of this (or possibly I'm the only one ;^). 

I presume we are talking about multi-homing to non-congruent topologies.
as described here http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-multihoming-without-ipv6nat-03

not sure what exact problems with walled gardens would affect routing though. 

cheers,
Ole

>>>>>>> "Acee" == Acee Lindem <acee.lindem@ericsson.com> writes:
>>>> The problem with zOSPF is that it doesn't meet our requirements.
>>>> It doesn't detect borders (unless the border happens to have
>>>> another zOSPF router with the wrong password),
>> 
>>   Acee> While this should be part of the solution, I don't see this as
>>   Acee> something that it necessarily should be built into the routing
>>   Acee> protocol.
>> 
>>>> it requires configuration (for the password),
>> 
>>   Acee> How does any protocol do authentication w/o a shared key? If
>>   Acee> you don't do authentication, you don't need a key.
>> 
>> Yes, this is a general problem, which is why I keep asking what are our
>> real requirements here.
>> 
>>>> it doesn't handle walled gardens (a requirement being debated),
>> 
>>   Acee> I don't fully understand this requirement and how it would be
>>   Acee> handled w/o configuration.
>> 
>> I don't understand this criticism.  Why are walled gardens different
>> than multiple ISPs?
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>>>> it's not lightweight.
>> 
>>   Acee> A commercial router implementation supporting all the features
>>   Acee> including OSPF TE and VPNs is certainly not
>>   Acee> lightweight. However, I just downloaded the latest quagga
>>   Acee> suite and it is only about 21K there.
>> 
>> rtr3-[/usr/pkg/sbin] mcr 10007 %size ospf6d /usr/pkg/lib/libzebra.so.0
>>  text    data     bss     dec     hex filename
>> 221476   11328    3132  235936   399a0 ospf6d
>> 272449   23848    3120  299417   49199 /usr/pkg/lib/libzebra.so.0
>> 
>> No all of libzebra might really be used.  So 11K code, plus up to 23K.
>> I think that half of the code can be ripped out (and I wish I had time
>> to do).
>> 
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