IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: Authentication over HTTP

Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> Mon, 15 July 2013 16:37 UTC

Return-Path: <ietf-http-wg-request@listhub.w3.org>
X-Original-To: ietfarch-httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietfarch-httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577AA21F9017 for <ietfarch-httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:37:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -10.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4EEUO2NVK7Lr for <ietfarch-httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:37:03 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1655F21F8FDC for <httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@lists.ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:37:02 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <ietf-http-wg-request@listhub.w3.org>) id 1UyllB-00074T-Tf for ietf-http-wg-dist@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:36:25 +0000
Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:36:25 +0000
Resent-Message-Id: <E1UyllB-00074T-Tf@frink.w3.org>
Received: from maggie.w3.org ([128.30.52.39]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <henry.story@bblfish.net>) id 1Uyll3-00073k-KY for ietf-http-wg@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:36:17 +0000
Received: from mail-we0-f173.google.com ([74.125.82.173]) by maggie.w3.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <henry.story@bblfish.net>) id 1Uyll2-000861-CI for ietf-http-wg@w3.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:36:17 +0000
Received: by mail-we0-f173.google.com with SMTP id x54so10264050wes.4 for <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:35:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=aowSvDNrOOsEaL1ZuLqk4XqL/B56GgsCr4/Z45WK71M=; b=PsfX76cckQ/eLSEeVHvtwtNyQHa5zYUig6vatsGP3/tVHTb+VAeyZlHxDcD72tR69s ROenLysVJL9XzO4xqWhGlpo+CGn53REIPbFo3919FgVBESrD16l8NGJxwNxi6KjcNmU0 K2zlX589a4CgeuzZ6ye4dao+rAbOW8WWWJKr8DrYIgoBYIe6lurVBsfx1rRCczgrqTAs JdX8FfEcBCmwyxnHJquZwtKg5iM8dvVYA9ywk0gSVSNtvxI8K6X2WfTeWmjECDNQ7ZsZ I6b1od5Sm7onG+tIzQTo5XgQkcVAmxSxpuDSoqnwZqw76JP2y1B9VsI6XDGTKH05mMZX mVMA==
X-Received: by 10.194.133.106 with SMTP id pb10mr32011474wjb.62.1373906150245; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:35:50 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from bblfish.home (AAubervilliers-652-1-122-215.w90-3.abo.wanadoo.fr. [90.3.169.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h8sm22076636wie.1.2013.07.15.09.35.48 for <multiple recipients> (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:35:48 -0700 (PDT)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\))
From: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
In-Reply-To: <72655.1373877459@critter.freebsd.dk>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:35:46 +0200
Cc: M Stefan <mstefanro@gmail.com>, ietf-http-wg@w3.org
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: <9A83B293-8536-47F3-82BA-519CA5F77E0D@bblfish.net>
References: <51E330F5.6050100@gmail.com> <20E2425E-2FD7-4435-9529-1C3FC001D495@bblfish.net> <72655.1373877459@critter.freebsd.dk>
To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508)
X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnBkgOB9jXWyPROzzIBZdJTk/6bAKc7cO2muH0y4kZs+MlSj3OVFdQ94sSf7MI9+xqzVTCu
Received-SPF: none client-ip=74.125.82.173; envelope-from=henry.story@bblfish.net; helo=mail-we0-f173.google.com
X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8
X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: AWL=-3.101, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7
X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1Uyll2-000861-CI 0b614981bf8299ee68618a1ace8b6fcf
X-Original-To: ietf-http-wg@w3.org
Subject: Re: Authentication over HTTP
Archived-At: <http://www.w3.org/mid/9A83B293-8536-47F3-82BA-519CA5F77E0D@bblfish.net>
Resent-From: ietf-http-wg@w3.org
X-Mailing-List: <ietf-http-wg@w3.org> archive/latest/18789
X-Loop: ietf-http-wg@w3.org
Resent-Sender: ietf-http-wg-request@w3.org
Precedence: list
List-Id: <ietf-http-wg.w3.org>
List-Help: <http://www.w3.org/Mail/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-http-wg-request@w3.org?subject=unsubscribe>

On 15 Jul 2013, at 10:37, "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote:

> In message <20E2425E-2FD7-4435-9529-1C3FC001D495@bblfish.net>, Henry Story writ
> es:
> 
>> Computational cost is no longer a problem. Google and Facebook provide
>> it with billions of connections a day.
> 
> That's like saying "transportation is non-issue, because Bill Gates
> have a private jet."
> 
> Not everybody has Google and FaceBook's globally distributed resources,
> nor their laser-like focus on delivering web-content.

For those who don't have billions of hits a day, they have even less
of an issue, since they have more spare cycles. Computer power has massively
increased since 1998.

btw. one version of DANE is implemented in Chrome

> 
> -- 
> Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
> phk@FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
> FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
> Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.

Social Web Architect
http://bblfish.net/

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email