Re: [hybi] Frame size
Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org> Mon, 19 April 2010 11:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hybi] Frame size
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Thomson, Martin wrote: > You make a good case... for SCTP :p Yes, absolutely! SCTP would be a much better match for the problem. Meanwhile, we have to work over TCP. Remember that Google's tests show you can only communicate from many client sites over: - TCP port 80, using HTTP - TCP port 443, using CONNECT - No other TCP ports. - (Not shown in that test, but) no other IP protocols It would be great to use SCTP when possible, but the basic protocol has to use TCP if it's to support Web Applications over the Web Using Internet. If you have a proposal for opportunistically upgrading to SCTP, that would be great. Perhaps if my ideas for proxies get taken seriously, we can put the SCTP upgrade in there, transparent to WebSocket applications :-) -- Jamie
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- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
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- Re: [hybi] Frame size Anne van Kesteren
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- Re: [hybi] Frame size Jamie Lokier
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