Re: [Ideas] Your Input requested: Charter Proposal New Version

Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com> Mon, 07 August 2017 18:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ideas] Your Input requested: Charter Proposal New Version
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On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 10:20 PM, Padma Pillay-Esnault
<padma.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear IDEAS,
>
> Thanks to everyone who sent their comments and feedback both on the list and
> off the list.
>
> This new version should address comments from:
> -  Michael Menth. Michael, please let us know if this revision address some
> of your comments on clarity.
> - Alex Clemm. Alex , please chime on the revision regarding your addition.
> - Tom Herbert. Tom, Some of your suggestions are incorporated in this
> version.
> -Tom and Alex, this version include specific working that the framework is
> modular. The set of areas to be covered has been reordered to put the basic
> identifier protocol common infrastructure first and then the new identity
> concept and functionalities.
> - Georgios Karagiannis, Uma Chundhuri. Georgios, Uma, there is still an
> ongoing discussion about the framework. This version is flexible enough to
> accommodate the work to be done on defining the framework.
> - Uma Chundhuri. Uma, the pub/sub reference should cover the inter-grids
> aspect if needed.
>
> Please find the new version below:
>
> IDEAS: “IDentity EnAbled networkS”
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> Proposed Charter
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> Network solutions based on the concept of Identifier-Locator separation are
> increasingly considered to support mobility and multi-homing across
> heterogeneous access networks. Identifier-locator separation protocols
> require infrastructure that allows nodes to discover the network topological
> location(s) of its peer(s) for packet delivery. A common infrastructure and
> protocol could be used by identifier/locator protocols as well as network
> virtualization. However, additional infrastructure and new protocol
> extensions are needed to address new requirements that go well beyond the
> traditional discovery service and mapping of identifier-to-location for
> packet delivery.
>
>
>
> At the same time, end users require greater privacy for their networking
> information and protection from outside threats, while operators demand
> greater operational efficiency. Identity-enabled networks aim to enable
> networking applications and services that provide a high degree of privacy
> and control of end points over their networking data, coupled with greater
> inherent security than provided by today’s networks.
>
>
>
> To this end, the working group shall:
>
> - define a framework for the development of an identifier/locator mapping
> system that provides a common solution for all identifier/locator mapping
> protocols and network virtualization.
>
Padma,

I think this statement could be stronger and express that the common
mapping system and protocols are expected output from WG. How about
something like: "Define and develop a common mapping system, control
plane, and related protocol that provide a common solution for
identifier/locator protocols that map identifiers to locators, as well
as network virtualization protocols that map virtual to physical
addresses"

Tom

>
>
> - in addition, introduce the concept of identity-identifier split and new
> mechanisms that let endpoints dynamically change identifiers. These new
> functionalities may, for example, facilitate anonymity through obscurity
> while preventing security issues that might result from abuse, ensuring that
> information about actual endpoints and their location is revealed only on a
> need-to-know basis.
>
>
>
> Some examples of the problem space are:
>
> - Common infrastructure and primitives: The lack of a common infrastructure
> is a barrier for the application of common and consistent basic networking
> policies. Likewise, mapping services and infrastructure that apply to
> identity-identifier as well as identifier-locator mappings reduces
> operational and deployment complexity.
>
>
>
> - Access control: Unrestricted look up on an identifier may reveal
> information such as the locator to eavesdroppers. Today, there is no way to
> prevent the look up of an identifier with some user defined policy or finer
> grain rules.
>
>
>
> - Privacy:  The use of long-lived and public identifiers may be desirable
> for looking up a peer, however it causes privacy issues as well. Indeed,
> when identifier-location pairs can be looked up without restriction, flows
> can be pinned by anybody to specific end systems.  The endpoint
> communications should be able to change their identifier while retaining
> their identity and associated policies. The use of temporary identifiers and
> access control on lookups should help discourage undesired traffic and
> conceal sensitive network information of end devices to eavesdroppers.
>
>
>
> The Identity Enabled Networks (IDEAS) working group is chartered to develop
> a common framework that can be used by identifier-based protocols and
> provides services to address their requirements. We refer to the common
> framework providing the set of services as Generic Identity Services
> (GRIDS).
>
>
>
> The working group will identify gaps and make recommendations on changes
> needed for interactions between the framework and identifier-enabled
> protocols.
>
>
>
> Specifically, the IDEAS WG is chartered to work on these areas for the
> modular framework:
>
>
>
> - Definition of primitives for interworking with identifier-location split
> protocols
>
> - Identifier/locator mapping and resolution (e.g. discovery, pub/sub,
> multihoming, ...)
>
> - Registration and lifecycle management of identities and their associated
> identifiers.
>
> - Identity authentication and authorization (e.g. access to framework,
> update of information for identifiers..)
>
> - Definition and enforcement of basic networking policies (e.g. ability to
> look up an identifier-locator pair, permit forwarding traffic for particular
> endpoints on a per-identity basis…)
>
> - Identity and Identifier Metadata (fixed or slow changing)
>
> - Management aspects and Data Models where appropriate.
>
>
>
> The IDEAS WG will collaborate with other Working Groups to ensure
> interoperability with LISP, HIP, ILA and other relevant work. Furthermore,
> it will try to reuse technologies already developed when appropriate.
>
>
>
> WG deliverables include the definition:
>
> Generic Identity Services Framework
>
>
>
> WG sustaining/informational documents may include:
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> These documents may not necessarily be published, but may be maintained in a
> draft form or on a collaborative Working Group wiki to support the efforts
> of the Working Group and help new comers:
>
> - Problem statement
>
> - Use cases
>
> - Requirements
>
> - Applications of the architecture for use cases
>
>
>
> Milestones
>
> March 2018 Adopt WG draft for the Generic Identity Services framework
>
> August 2018 WGLC for the Generic Identity Services framework
>
> December 2018 Send Generic Identity Services framework draft to the IESG
>
>
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