Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00

"Thomas Mangin" <thomas.mangin@exa-networks.co.uk> Sat, 16 May 2015 19:04 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00
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>> I would rather see this totally harmless draft (as vendors can decide 
>> to ignore it without consequences) progress than seeing Cumulus 
>> assigning a capability number for it and later find that we have like 
>> multisession two different code for the same feature :p
>
> Or just keep track of your peering info in a database ... With contact 
> info, business relationship, etc.  this is not a bgp problem, IMO.  
> Its a CRM and NMS problem.

We will clearly not agree.

As we believe in “working code and rough consensus”, we now have the 
first half.
https://github.com/Exa-Networks/exabgp/commit/2641669f0bf6f34e3639bcdc36a940c381c89548

I will let people decide about the second half.

Thomas