Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.txt - WG Adoption and IPR call (9/27 to 10/11/2022)
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Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.txt - WG Adoption and IPR call (9/27 to 10/11/2022)
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Hi Jeff, Sure I was not asking exactly what you do in your gig. I was looking for a general description. Perhaps more of interest to GROW WG then here. IMHO targeting subset of BGP speakers with routing related data can safely work only in a few very specific cases. And even then this to me is more of mgmt task. Thx, R. On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 6:03 AM Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > Robert, > > I’m not at liberty to discuss any operational practices we employ… > As you can imagine - any such routing change involves route tagging and a > number of a rather complex policies; in highly symmetrical topologies, > uniform route distribution is just fine, however in case of a catastrophic > failures (especially in case of limited optical availability) ability to > target a subset of BGP speakers could be advantageous. > > Cheers, > Jeff > > On Oct 13, 2022, at 10:51, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote: > > > Hi Jeff, > > > sometimes i need to move GWs of capacity from one region to another > > Can you elaborate a bit how exactly are you going to do that > with node-target-ext-comm ? > > What exactly are you going to advertise from where to where to move "GWs > of capacity" between regions ? > > Thx, > R. > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 5:31 PM Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Gert, >> >> As much as I think policy distribution should be separated from >> reachability, post FS, LS and all the SR related stuff, this is hardly a >> correct statement anymore. >> Looking at my toolset (sometimes i need to move GWs of capacity from one >> region to another) - this would be a very useful addition. >> >> Cheers, >> Jeff >> >> > On Oct 13, 2022, at 04:13, Dongjie (Jimmy) <jie.dong= >> 40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Gert, >> > >> > Thanks for your comments. >> > >> > The proposed mechanism can be used to control the distribution of BGP >> routes to a set of BGP nodes in the network. One specific node is a >> possible use case, while not the only one. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Jie >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gert Doering >> >> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 3:02 PM >> >> To: duzongpeng@foxmail.com >> >> Cc: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>; idr@ietf. org <idr@ietf.org>; Van >> De >> >> Velde, Gunter \(Nokia - BE/Antwerp\) <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com> >> >> Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.txt - WG >> Adoption >> >> and IPR call (9/27 to 10/11/2022) >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 03:22:07PM +0800, duzongpeng@foxmail.com >> >>> wrote: >> >>> I support the adoption of the draft. It is useful when we need >> notify >> >> some specific node in the network by using BGP. >> >> >> >> BGP is really not a signalling tool "send information to one specific >> node". >> >> >> >> Gert Doering >> >> -- NetMaster >> >> -- >> >> have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? >> >> >> >> SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, >> >> Michael Emmer >> >> Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. >> >> Grundner-Culemann >> >> D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) >> >> Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Idr mailing list >> >> Idr@ietf.org >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Idr mailing list >> > Idr@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Idr mailing list >> Idr@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr >> >
- [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.txt … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… tom petch
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… tom petch
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… tom petch
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Zhuangshunwan
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… tom petch
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Wanghaibo (Rainsword)
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Lizhenbin
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Aijun Wang
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Wanghaibo (Rainsword)
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Chongfeng Xie
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… duzongpeng@foxmail.com
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Giuseppe Fioccola
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Chengli
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Yisong Liu
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… UTTARO, JAMES
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Huaimo Chen
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Gert Doering
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Gert Doering
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Kausik Majumdar
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… pangran@chinaunicom.cn
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.… Robert Raszuk