Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.txt - WG Adoption and IPR call (9/27 to 10/11/2022)

Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Fri, 14 October 2022 08:29 UTC

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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:29:55 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.txt - WG Adoption and IPR call (9/27 to 10/11/2022)
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Hi Jeff,

Sure I was not asking exactly what you do in your gig. I was looking for a
general description. Perhaps more of interest to GROW WG then here.

IMHO targeting subset of BGP speakers with routing related data can safely
work only in a few very specific cases. And even then this to me is more of
mgmt task.

Thx,
R.

On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 6:03 AM Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Robert,
>
> I’m not at liberty to discuss any operational practices we employ…
> As you can imagine - any such routing change involves route tagging and a
> number of a rather complex policies; in highly symmetrical topologies,
> uniform route distribution is just fine, however in case of a catastrophic
> failures (especially in case of limited optical availability) ability to
> target a subset of BGP speakers could be advantageous.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff
>
> On Oct 13, 2022, at 10:51, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Jeff,
>
> > sometimes i need to move GWs of capacity from one region to another
>
> Can you elaborate a bit how exactly are you going to do that
> with node-target-ext-comm ?
>
> What exactly are you going to advertise from where to where to move "GWs
> of capacity" between regions ?
>
> Thx,
> R.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 5:31 PM Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Gert,
>>
>> As much as I think policy distribution should be separated from
>> reachability, post FS, LS and all the SR related stuff, this is hardly a
>> correct statement anymore.
>> Looking at my toolset (sometimes i need to move GWs of capacity from one
>> region to another) - this would be a very useful addition.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jeff
>>
>> > On Oct 13, 2022, at 04:13, Dongjie (Jimmy) <jie.dong=
>> 40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Gert,
>> >
>> > Thanks for your comments.
>> >
>> > The proposed mechanism can be used to control the distribution of BGP
>> routes to a set of BGP nodes in the network. One specific node is a
>> possible use case, while not the only one.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Jie
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gert Doering
>> >> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 3:02 PM
>> >> To: duzongpeng@foxmail.com
>> >> Cc: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>; idr@ietf. org <idr@ietf.org>; Van
>> De
>> >> Velde, Gunter \(Nokia - BE/Antwerp\) <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-05.txt - WG
>> Adoption
>> >> and IPR call (9/27 to 10/11/2022)
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 03:22:07PM +0800, duzongpeng@foxmail.com
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>    I support the adoption of the draft. It is useful when we need
>> notify
>> >> some specific node in the network by using BGP.
>> >>
>> >> BGP is really not a signalling tool "send information to one specific
>> node".
>> >>
>> >> Gert Doering
>> >>        -- NetMaster
>> >> --
>> >> have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
>> >>
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