Re: Pending requests
John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org> Fri, 27 November 2015 04:18 UTC
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Shawn Steele scripsit: > Basic English was (at least partially) intended to be an international > language that would be easy for people around the world to learn. Indeed, which was Churchill's original interest in it. Unfortunately, its use of short native verbs with particles like "put up with" turns out to be harder to learn than more inter-European words like "endure". > Its simplified vocabulary (originally 850 words, I don't know if that's > changed) was intended to be simple. 850 words plus whatever technical terms are needed for the particular text. Ogden never thought that it would be possible to do without those. Hs opponents caricatured Basic for its supposed clumsiness by translating "The officer led his troops against the enemy, but the enemy stood firm" as "The person in military authority was the guide of his men in the army against the nation at war, but the non-friends stood solidly upright", using only the 850-word vocabulary. But Ogden himself retorted with "The lieutenant went in front of his men to the attack, but the other side did not give way", using just one technical term. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org Dream projects long deferred usually bite the wax tadpole. --James Lileks
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- Pending requests Doug Ewell
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Mark Davis ☕️
- RE: Pending requests Doug Ewell
- Re: Pending requests Johannes Wilkes
- Re: Pending requests David Starner
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests David Starner
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- Re: Pending requests Mark Davis ☕️
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Philip Newton
- Re: Pending requests Philip Newton
- Basic English Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- RE: Basic English Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Basic English Mark Davis ☕️
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Basic English Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Basic English Michael Everson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- RE: Basic English Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests John Cowan
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- Re: Pending requests Philip Newton
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Basic English Doug Ewell
- Re: Pending requests Doug Ewell
- Re: Pending requests Doug Ewell
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Peter Constable
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests John Cowan
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Peter Constable
- RE: Pending requests Doug Ewell
- RE: Pending requests Doug Ewell
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Peter Constable
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Mark Davis ☕️