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Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com> Mon, 30 November 2015 23:07 UTC

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From: Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com>
To: Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com>, ietflang IETF Languages Discussion <ietf-languages@iana.org>
Subject: RE: Pending requests
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That's too specific.  The *ONLY* reason that this tag might be interesting is for interchange.  (Otherwise they just go -x-pirate on it).  And my users aren't going to set their language to en-US-wpsimple, but they *might* change to en-US-simple if they needed that extra assistance.

We shouldn't be encoding one-off proprietary tags here.  People can make their own private use tags if they want to talk to themselves (after all, that's what they're for).

If they tried -simple and discovered a need to distinguish simplea from simpleb, then I might be interested, but I don't see a case or scenario where that even begins to make sense.  They're not asking for -wpsimple and -wphard and -wpmedium.  

Note that this isn't like an OED standard that's used by multiple organizations in an open interchange-y way.  At best it's used by vendors of a single organization (and then they could go with the private tags).

How does -simple not solve Wikipedia's immediate problem of providing normal and simplified versions of English?

-Shawn

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From: Ietf-languages [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no] On Behalf Of Michael Everson
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Cc: Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il>
Subject: Re: Pending requests

I believe it is too general and therefore could mean anything.

The rules for Oxford English Dictionary spelling are laid down by one organization. 

My thinking was that wpsimple would be similar: the rules for Wikipedia’s Simple English spelling are laid down by one organization. And if any of their other language-versions were to come up with a simple version, then the prefix for those could be specified. 

Why is this problematic?

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