Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: RE: can I share the drafts of ISO 21636

[Sebastian Drude <[e-mail]>]

That is a good question, Michael, although I am not sure what exactly 
'consider' means, in this context.  What would be the goal, that you as 
individual experts enter into a special realtionship with ISO TC37/SC2?

I did not conclude my first experience with getting an institution 
(CLARIN) to be a ISO liaison, so I really do not have much expertise 
here how to proceed.  I will consult with colleagues within ISO.

Best,

Sebastian

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On 30/11/2020 18:46, Doug Ewell wrote:
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> I don’t think it would be helpful to establish a liaison with IETF 
> proper, that is to say, Area Directors and above. They have little to 
> no idea what this group does.
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> Michael and I are IETF Designated Experts for BCP 47. I wonder if SC2 
> would consider that.
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> Doug Ewell, CC, ALB | Thornton, CO, US | ewellic.org
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> *From:* Ietf-languages <[e-mail]> *On Behalf Of 
> *Sebastian Drude
> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2020 6:33
> *To:* IETF Languages Discussion <[e-mail]>; 
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> *Subject:* [Ietf-languages] Fwd: RE: can I share the drafts of ISO 21636
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> Dear ietf/iana language-tag working group,
>
> unfortunately, I got the response that I am not allowed to share the 
> draft technical report 21636 with you.
>
> However, the ISO secretariat points at the possibility for IETF to 
> enter a liaison relation with ISO TC37/SC2, similar to a relation that 
> already exists for ISO TC1/SC29.  That would allow the direct 
> participation, and the sharing of documents.
>
> I am not sure whether that is a feasible option; else we would need to 
> find alternative ways of collaborating.  We should discuss that once a 
> smaller working group has been formed.
>
>
> Best greetings,
>
> Sebastian
>
>
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> Mon, 30 Nov 2020 12:01:59 +0000
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> FERRES Mercè <[e-mail]> <mailto:[e-mail]>
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> Drude Sebastian Mr <[e-mail]> <mailto:[e-mail]>, Talimba 
> Gabriela Mrs <[e-mail]> 
> <mailto:[e-mail]>, Galinski Christian Dr 
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> Constable Peter Mr. <[e-mail]> <mailto:[e-mail]>
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> Dear Sebastian,
>
> Thank you for asking. All drafts of ISO standards are copyright 
> protected and cannot be circulated beyond ISO.
>
> I can see IETF is in A-liaison with ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 29 since early 
> 2020. Similarly, perhaps they would be interested in seeking a liaison 
> with ISO/TC 37/SC 2: this would allow them to follow-up the work of 
> this committee, comment on all drafts and actively participate on the 
> projects of their choice by appointing experts.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Mercè
>
> mercèferrés hernández
> technical programme manager | standardization department | 
> iso central secretariat <http://www.iso.org/iso/contact_iso> | 
> phone: [phone]
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> *From:* Sebastian Drude <[e-mail]> <mailto:[e-mail]>
> *Sent:* 2020-11-28 00:11
> *To:* FERRES Mercè <[e-mail]> <mailto:[e-mail]>; Talimba 
> Gabriela Mrs <[e-mail]> 
> <mailto:[e-mail]>; Galinski Christian Dr 
> <[e-mail]> <mailto:[e-mail]>; 
> Constable Peter Mr. <[e-mail]> <mailto:[e-mail]>
> *Subject:* can I share the drafts of ISO 21636
>
> Dear Mercé, Gabriela, Christian,
>
> in the Internet Engineering Taskforce for Language, which is taking 
> care of BCP 47 (languages tags), there is now an incipient discussion 
> about how to bring these two important entities together in a coherent 
> and harmonic way.  We may even be able to form a subcommittee to bring 
> this further ahead.
>
> One question in this context: *am I entitled to share the draft 
> document* with the people in that working group, for this purpose?  
> This is certainly something which should be in the interest of ISO, 
> ans BCP 47 certainly is the sigle most relevant framework for future 
> applications of the ISO/TR21636 framework.
>
> Please let me know.  Thanks!
>
> Sebastian
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