[Ietf-languages] Fwd: RE: can I share the drafts of ISO 21636
Sebastian Drude <drude@xs4all.nl> Mon, 30 November 2020 13:33 UTC
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Subject: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: RE: can I share the drafts of ISO 21636
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Dear ietf/iana language-tag working group, unfortunately, I got the response that I am not allowed to share the draft technical report 21636 with you. However, the ISO secretariat points at the possibility for IETF to enter a liaison relation with ISO TC37/SC2, similar to a relation that already exists for ISO TC1/SC29. That would allow the direct participation, and the sharing of documents. I am not sure whether that is a feasible option; else we would need to find alternative ways of collaborating. We should discuss that once a smaller working group has been formed. Best greetings, Sebastian -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: RE: can I share the drafts of ISO 21636 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 12:01:59 +0000 From: FERRES Mercè <FERRES@iso.org> To: Drude Sebastian Mr <drude@xs4all.nl>, Talimba Gabriela Mrs <gabriela.talimba@bgcommunications.ca>, Galinski Christian Dr <christian.galinski@chello.at>, Constable Peter Mr. <pgcon6@msn.com> Dear Sebastian, Thank you for asking. All drafts of ISO standards are copyright protected and cannot be circulated beyond ISO. I can see IETF is in A-liaison with ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 29 since early 2020. Similarly, perhaps they would be interested in seeking a liaison with ISO/TC 37/SC 2: this would allow them to follow-up the work of this committee, comment on all drafts and actively participate on the projects of their choice by appointing experts. Hope this helps, Mercè mercèferrés hernández technical programme manager | standardization department | iso central secretariat <http://www.iso.org/iso/contact_iso> | phone: +41 (0)79 222 53 54 *From:* Sebastian Drude <drude@xs4all.nl> *Sent:* 2020-11-28 00:11 *To:* FERRES Mercè <FERRES@iso.org>; Talimba Gabriela Mrs <gabriela.talimba@bgcommunications.ca>; Galinski Christian Dr <christian.galinski@chello.at>; Constable Peter Mr. <pgcon6@msn.com> *Subject:* can I share the drafts of ISO 21636 Dear Mercé, Gabriela, Christian, in the Internet Engineering Taskforce for Language, which is taking care of BCP 47 (languages tags), there is now an incipient discussion about how to bring these two important entities together in a coherent and harmonic way. We may even be able to form a subcommittee to bring this further ahead. One question in this context: *am I entitled to share the draft document* with the people in that working group, for this purpose? This is certainly something which should be in the interest of ISO, ans BCP 47 certainly is the sigle most relevant framework for future applications of the ISO/TR21636 framework. Please let me know. Thanks! Sebastian -- Museu P.E. Goeldi, CCH, Linguistica ▪ Av. Perimetral, 1901 Terra Firme, CEP: 66077-530 ▪ Belém do Pará – PA ▪ Brazil drude@xs4all.nl <mailto:drude@xs4all.nl> ▪ +55 (91) 3217 6024 ▪ +55 (91) 983733319 Priv: Tv. Juvenal Cordeiro, 184, Apt 104 ▪ 66070-300 Belém
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- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: RE: can I share the dra… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: RE: can I share the dra… Peter Constable
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: RE: can I share the dra… Sebastian Drude
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: RE: can I share the dra… Sebastian Drude
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: RE: can I share the dra… Peter Constable
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: RE: can I share the dra… Sebastian Drude
- [Ietf-languages] Fwd: RE: Re: Fwd: RE: can I shar… Sebastian Drude
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: RE: Re: Fwd: RE: can I … Peter Constable
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: RE: Re: Fwd: RE: can I … Sebastian Drude
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