RE: Pending requests
Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com> Wed, 02 December 2015 00:54 UTC
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From: Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com>
To: Kent Karlsson <kent.karlsson14@telia.com>, Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org>, John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>, Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com>
Subject: RE: Pending requests
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I included VoA primarily as a demonstration of extensibility for the strawman. We do not necessarily need to include it down. AFAIK it's not being requested. I have no fundamental objection to additional levels of precision, though I'm not quite certain how to best make that concept portable or usable. And again, there's no immediate request for those so I see no need to make a solution for a hypothetical scenario. It would be possible to say en-simple-level2-voice or en-simple-voice2, but both have their own ways of being awkward, and "level 2" on one website (or book) may not be similar to a level 2 on another site. I'd be happy with just -simple for now and see if that gets traction and if people start asking for better fidelity later.... -Shawn -----Original Message----- From: Kent Karlsson [mailto:kent.karlsson14@telia.com] Sent: December 1, 2015 3:58 PM To: Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com>; Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org>; John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>; Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com> Cc: ietflang IETF Languages Discussion <ietf-languages@iana.org>; Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il> Subject: Re: Pending requests 1) VoA now calls this "Learning English", NOT "Special English". 2) VoA has three levels of "simplicity". See http://learningenglish.voanews.com/ 3) Some other simple language news sites also use several levels. E.g. http://www.practicaespanol.com/13-expresiones-en-espanol-en-las-noticias-sobre-terrorismo/ /Kent K
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- Pending requests Doug Ewell
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Mark Davis ☕️
- RE: Pending requests Doug Ewell
- Re: Pending requests Johannes Wilkes
- Re: Pending requests David Starner
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests David Starner
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- Re: Pending requests Mark Davis ☕️
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Philip Newton
- Re: Pending requests Philip Newton
- Basic English Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- RE: Basic English Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Basic English Mark Davis ☕️
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Basic English Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Basic English Michael Everson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- RE: Basic English Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests John Cowan
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- Re: Pending requests Philip Newton
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Basic English Doug Ewell
- Re: Pending requests Doug Ewell
- Re: Pending requests Doug Ewell
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Peter Constable
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests John Cowan
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Peter Constable
- RE: Pending requests Doug Ewell
- RE: Pending requests Doug Ewell
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Kent Karlsson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- RE: Pending requests Peter Constable
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- Re: Pending requests Michael Everson
- RE: Pending requests Shawn Steele
- Re: Pending requests Mark Davis ☕️