Re: [netmod] Blog: YANG Really Takes Off in the Industry

Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Mon, 01 December 2014 22:30 UTC

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On 01/12/2014 15:48, Thomas D. Nadeau wrote:
>
>> On Dec 1, 2014:3:26 AM, at 3:26 AM, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com 
>> <mailto:bclaise@cisco.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Dean,
>>
>> See in-line.
>>> Benoit,
>>>
>>> You describe the situation really well, but as next step we have to 
>>> get more organized and more coordination in modeling work. We have 
>>> to make sure that there is not too much overlap between efforts, not 
>>> too waste resources
>> ... and inconsistencies between data models, which is my primary concern.
>>
>> Let's take one example: policies. I see policies in many YANG models. 
>> How do we make sure the policie definitions are consistent and 
>> extensible? How can we coordinate this (huge) effort? Who is in 
>> charge? The collective responsibility might not be enough…
>
> Coordination is only one issue: its operational efficacy that is also 
> of paramount importance here. We should do what we’ve done in NETMOD's 
> “design teams”: pair up people that are truly implementing 
> functionality in real or virtual devices with operators to ensure that 
> the models created are grounded in the realities of implementation and 
> deployment.
+1

Regards, Benoit
>
> —Tom
>
>
>>
>>> and as well create an architecture description document, where the 
>>> relationship between models will be described. With that we can see 
>>> which models can be reused as base model in other models.
>>> Good example of coordination is the rtg-coord-yang mailing list, but 
>>> we need one for all IETF, to be able to find what are other the 
>>> teams working on.
>> Right.
>>
>> Regards, Benoit
>>>
>>> We should not let this momentum go away and with few simple steps 
>>> (like improving coordination and system meta architecture), continue 
>>> to feed positive energy into this situation.
>>>
>>> Dean
>>> On Nov 27, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com 
>>> <mailto:bclaise@cisco.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> [netmod WG list is bcc'ed]
>>>>
>>>> Enjoyhttp://www.ietf.org/blog/2014/11/yang-really-takes-off-in-the-industry/
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Benoit
>>>>
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