Re: [netmod] Blog: YANG Really Takes Off in the Industry

Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Mon, 01 December 2014 08:27 UTC

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Dean,

See in-line.
> Benoit,
>
> You describe the situation really well, but as next step we have to 
> get more organized and more coordination in modeling work. We have to 
> make sure that there is not too much overlap between efforts, not too 
> waste resources
... and inconsistencies between data models, which is my primary concern.

Let's take one example: policies. I see policies in many YANG models. 
How do we make sure the policie definitions are consistent and 
extensible? How can we coordinate this (huge) effort? Who is in charge? 
The collective responsibility might not be enough...

> and as well create an architecture description document, where the 
> relationship between models will be described. With that we can see 
> which models can be reused as base model in other models.
> Good example of coordination is the rtg-coord-yang mailing list, but 
> we need one for all IETF, to be able to find what are other the teams 
> working on.
Right.

Regards, Benoit
>
> We should not let this momentum go away and with few simple steps 
> (like improving coordination and system meta architecture), continue 
> to feed positive energy into this situation.
>
> Dean
> On Nov 27, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com 
> <mailto:bclaise@cisco.com>> wrote:
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>> Dear all,
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