Re: congestion control? - (was Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director)

[Toerless Eckert <[e-mail]>]

Martin,

An article like this is the best reason why we should never finally resolve the
buffer bloat issue: Doing that would take away the opportunity for
generations of researcher to over and over regurgitate the same proposed
improvements and gain PhDs in the process.

I mean the Internet wold be like math without fermats last theorem.
Have you seen how disenfranchised mathematicians are now ? Its worse than the mood at
Kennedy Space center without a shuttle program (to bring the discussion back to
relevant aspects of IETF Orlando).

Sorry. could'nt resist.

I was actually happy about using some of those UDP based flow control reliable
transports in past years when i couldn't figure out how to fix the TCP stack of
my OSs. Alas, the beginning of the end of TCP is near now anyhow with RTCweb deciding
to use browser/user-level based SCTP over UDP stacks instead of OS-level TCP. 

On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 01:41:35AM +0100, Martin Rex wrote:
> Bob Braden wrote:
> > On 3/4/2013 10:20 AM, Roger Jørgensen wrote:
> > > I'll ask a rather basic question and hope someone will answer in an 
> > > educational way - Why is congestion control so important? And where 
> > > does it apply? ... :-) 
> > 
> > Ouch. Because without it (as we learned the hard way in the late 1980s) \
> > the Internet may collapse and provide essentially no service.
>  
> It is PR like this one:
> 
>   http://www.fujitsu.com/global/news/pr/archives/month/2013/20130129-02.html
> 
> That gets me worried about folks might try to "fix" the internet
> mostly due to the fact that they really haven't understood what
> is already there any why.
> 
> -Martin

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Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture
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