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Re: Saturday as start day

"tom p." <daedulus@btconnect.com> Tue, 27 June 2017 09:01 UTC

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From: "tom p." <daedulus@btconnect.com>
To: Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com>, ietf@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: Saturday as start day
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 09:28:43 +0100
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Burger" <eburger@standardstrack.com>
To: <ietf@ietf.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 10:03 PM

On the one hand, I won’t be working on Saturday.

On the other hand, as someone on a limited budget (read university)
paying for someone else (read student) to go to the IETF, that Saturday
night stay has a big impact on airfare.

So long as we don’t have Saturday creep in as a ‘regular’ IETF working
day, I’m for the change.

<tp>

Eric

I am not sure which way round your comment on budgets is intended but
for me, staying over for a Saturday night makes the transatlantic
airfare much cheaper so I always travel on Saturday even if there is
nothing to do on Sunday (except deal with jetlag).

Friday travel is busy and congested, especially next month in the
holiday season, so I would never travel on Friday.

Tom Petch

> On Jun 23, 2017, at 1:39 AM, Tobias Gondrom
<tobias.gondrom@gondrom.org> wrote:
>
> I also agree. This is good idea.
> (with my individual hat on... ;-) )
> Best regards, Tobias
>
> On June 21, 2017 8:46:57 PM GMT+08:00, Bob Hinden
<bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alissa,
>
>  On Jun 21, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> wrote:
>
>  Hi all,
>
>  Based on a suggestion from Paul Hoffman, the IESG believes it would
be beneficial to denote the official start of IETF meetings to be on
Saturday rather than Sunday, starting with IETF 100. We believe this
would be sensible given that events such as the hackathon and code
sprint start on Saturday, and may make it easier for some participants
to get travel approval to attend those events. This change would be
reflected in the dates posted on the IETF web site and sent out in email
announcements. We are not proposing any changes in terms of the
scheduling of any meeting-related events, the full availability of the
meeting network starting on Sunday, the opening of on-site registration,
or the meeting fee.
>
>
> I think this is a fine idea, essentially formalizing what has happened
informally.  I suspect once in effect it will push the network to be
deployed earlier, but given current Saturday events, that was also
probably going to happen at some point.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
>  If you have feedback about this change, please send it to
ietf@ietf.org, or exceptionally to iesg@ietf.org, by July 5, 2017.

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