Re: Saturday as start day

"Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu@cisco.com> Wed, 21 June 2017 19:58 UTC

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From: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: Saturday as start day
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I am very much in favor it. It will help alleviate confusion people have had in the past regarding the dates of the hackathon, especially people who are new to the IETF.

Cheers,
Charles

From: ietf <ietf-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 11:09 AM
To: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Saturday as start day

Alissa,

I support the idea, for many of us this is just formalization of what we have been doing anyway.
It could help some folks who need to justify flight/hotel at earlier date to their management.

Cheers,
Jeff


From: ietf <ietf-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 05:34
To: IETF Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Saturday as start day

Hi all,

Based on a suggestion from Paul Hoffman, the IESG believes it would be beneficial to denote the official start of IETF meetings to be on Saturday rather than Sunday, starting with IETF 100. We believe this would be sensible given that events such as the hackathon and code sprint start on Saturday, and may make it easier for some participants to get travel approval to attend those events. This change would be reflected in the dates posted on the IETF web site and sent out in email announcements. We are not proposing any changes in terms of the scheduling of any meeting-related events, the full availability of the meeting network starting on Sunday, the opening of on-site registration, or the meeting fee.

If you have feedback about this change, please send it to ietf@ietf.org<mailto:ietf@ietf.org>, or exceptionally to iesg@ietf.org<mailto:iesg@ietf.org>, by July 5, 2017.

Thanks,
The IESG