Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic
Christian de Larrinaga <cdel@firsthand.net> Thu, 03 December 2020 12:27 UTC
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From: Christian de Larrinaga <cdel@firsthand.net>
To: Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>
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Subject: Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic
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Nick Hilliard writes: > Christian de Larrinaga wrote on 03/12/2020 11:13 >> there are times when having telnet to test a mail server / email address is helpful? >> >> Happy to have a better sweetie if you can suggest one > > netcat is probably better for this because it opens up a raw socket and > doesn't attempt to cook the transport layer, like telnet. Yes John Levine mentioned nc earlier. I do use it for some usecases but I find muscle memory takes over and telnet has a loooong history. I have been slowly reviewing and installing newer tools on my linux laptops over the year. But gaining a 10,000 metre view of the current options takes time. > > In any event, reclassifying a protocol as historic doesn't mean that the > tools will disappear. It just means that as a protocol is at an > evolutionary dead end. When one stops eating one's own dog food .... > > It's ok to admit this sort of thing and not see it as a bad thing. The > world moves on. > > The same applies to finger except more so. And identd (rfc1413), > chargen (rfc864), echo/udp (rfc862) and, honestly, cartloads of the > earlier rfcs. If there were a gigantic bonfire of a bunch of these, I > would be happy to supply the marshmallows. > > Nick sounds like a job to build the wiki for this. C -- Christian de Larrinaga
- Two FTP issues John C Klensin
- Re: Two FTP issues Carsten Bormann
- Re: Two FTP issues John C Klensin
- Re: Two FTP issues Carsten Bormann
- Re: Two FTP issues John C Klensin
- Re: Two FTP issues Carsten Bormann
- Re: Two FTP issues John C Klensin
- Re: Two FTP issues Theodore Y. Ts'o
- Re: Two FTP issues Joseph Touch
- Re: Two FTP issues Salz, Rich
- Re: Two FTP issues Larry Masinter
- Re: Two non-FTP issues John Levine
- Re: Two non-FTP issues Keith Moore
- Re: Two FTP issues John C Klensin
- Telnet and FTP to Historic Phillip Hallam-Baker
- MIME sniffing Keith Moore
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Keith Moore
- Re: MIME sniffing Julian Reschke
- Re: MIME sniffing Keith Moore
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Adam Roach
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Carsten Bormann
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Michael Richardson
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Carsten Bormann
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Michael Thomas
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic John C Klensin
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Stephen Farrell
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Mark Andrews
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Stephen Farrell
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Scott Bradner
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Michael Richardson
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Michael Richardson
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Stephen Farrell
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Jared Mauch
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Mark Andrews
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic John Levine
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic John C Klensin
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Theodore Y. Ts'o
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Christian Huitema
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Joe Touch
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Christian Huitema
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Christian de Larrinaga
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Masataka Ohta
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Masataka Ohta
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Dave Cridland
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Nick Hilliard
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Masataka Ohta
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Masataka Ohta
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic IETF Sergeant at Arms
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Christian de Larrinaga
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Michael Richardson
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Masataka Ohta
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Masataka Ohta
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Joe Touch
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Keith Moore
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Adam Roach
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Christian Huitema
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Keith Moore
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Keith Moore