Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic
"Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu> Thu, 03 December 2020 04:06 UTC
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From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
Cc: "Scott O. Bradner" <sob@sobco.com>, "John C. Klensin" <john-ietf@jck.com>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>, Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>, IETF Discussion Mailing List <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic
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On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 11:28:42PM +0000, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > I gotta wonder about that last. Wouldn't it be credible to > argue that telnet is in fact a real danger, if one looks at > all the CVEs that've reported on ports with admin/admin > access? I'm not sure if it'd be the right thing to do, but > I do think one can credibly argue that deprecating telnet > might be worthwhile. I'm not convinced by that argument. How many of these ports are actually running the telnet protocol? I may do something like: % telnet imap.thunk.org 25 However, I'm not actually using the telnet *protocol*. I'm just using the telnet *program* to talk to a an SMTP server. Deprecating the RFC for the telnet protocol isn't going to magically make all instances of the telnet program go away, and even if it didn't, netcat (nc) would still exist. - Ted
- Two FTP issues John C Klensin
- Re: Two FTP issues Carsten Bormann
- Re: Two FTP issues John C Klensin
- Re: Two FTP issues Carsten Bormann
- Re: Two FTP issues John C Klensin
- Re: Two FTP issues Carsten Bormann
- Re: Two FTP issues John C Klensin
- Re: Two FTP issues Theodore Y. Ts'o
- Re: Two FTP issues Joseph Touch
- Re: Two FTP issues Salz, Rich
- Re: Two FTP issues Larry Masinter
- Re: Two non-FTP issues John Levine
- Re: Two non-FTP issues Keith Moore
- Re: Two FTP issues John C Klensin
- Telnet and FTP to Historic Phillip Hallam-Baker
- MIME sniffing Keith Moore
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Keith Moore
- Re: MIME sniffing Julian Reschke
- Re: MIME sniffing Keith Moore
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Adam Roach
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Carsten Bormann
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Michael Richardson
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Carsten Bormann
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Michael Thomas
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic John C Klensin
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Stephen Farrell
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Mark Andrews
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Stephen Farrell
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Scott Bradner
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Michael Richardson
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Michael Richardson
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Stephen Farrell
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Jared Mauch
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Mark Andrews
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic John Levine
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic John C Klensin
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Theodore Y. Ts'o
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Christian Huitema
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Joe Touch
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Christian Huitema
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Christian de Larrinaga
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Masataka Ohta
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Masataka Ohta
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Dave Cridland
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Nick Hilliard
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Masataka Ohta
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Masataka Ohta
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic IETF Sergeant at Arms
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Christian de Larrinaga
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Michael Richardson
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Masataka Ohta
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Masataka Ohta
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Joe Touch
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Keith Moore
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Adam Roach
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Christian Huitema
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Keith Moore
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Telnet and FTP to Historic Keith Moore