Re: DMARC and ietf.org

John Payne <john@sackheads.org> Fri, 23 September 2016 21:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: DMARC and ietf.org
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> On Aug 12, 2016, at 10:39 PM, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes. It's been months and we need to know ASAP ...
> 
> ASAP?  Nothing has changed for months.
> 
> Google has repeatedly said that they're not going to turn on DMARC
> until ARC is available.

They already have for google.com <http://google.com/>… gmail is probably a much bigger impact, but I discovered google.com’s p=reject when we accidentally turned on DMARC enforcement :/