Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Submissions Editor
Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 12 September 2019 19:48 UTC
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From: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 12:47:56 -0700
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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Submissions Editor
To: Michael StJohns <msj@nthpermutation.com>
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Hi Mike, On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 12:07 PM Michael StJohns <msj@nthpermutation.com> wrote: > Hi - > > It seems like a singularly bad idea to be doing this review at this > time, given all the uncertainty with the RSE and the upcoming RPC > contract re-let. I went looking for some mention of a term for the ISE > in the various documents (RFC's 6635, 6548 and 4846) and didn't see > anything that said more than the IAB appointed the ISE - e.g. nothing > that would indicate this needs to be done *right now*. > If you review the announcement made in October of 2017, you'll see this: "The Internet Architecture Board is pleased to announce the appointment of Adrian Farrel as Independent Submission Editor (ISE). This appointment is for a two-year term, beginning on February 15th, 2018." Since his term was going to end between IETF 106 and IETF 107, we are asking for input on a re-appointment. You'll see that the IAB of the time did similar calls for comment during Nevil's term(s). > Can I suggest we defer this to after the RSE process has made forward > progress - perhaps until say after the March meeting? Unless of > course Adrian has asked to be replaced? > > I'm happy to report that Adrian did not indicate a need to step down. (That's why this is a call for comments, not a call for candidates). I take it your feedback to the IAB is that making a change here is ill-timed. Thanks for that feedback. If you have direct feedback on Adrian's work, we will be happy to receive that as well, in the channels previously named. Thanks, Ted > Later, Mike > > > On 9/10/2019 3:18 PM, IAB Executive Administrative Manager wrote: > > As part of its oversight responsibility for the Independent Stream, the > > IAB is soliciting comments from the community on the performance of the > > Independent Submissions Editor, Adrian Farrel. The IAB is interested in > > comments on the last two years of operation of the Independent Stream > > and Adrian's activities as ISE. > > > > Please send comments to iab-chair@ab.org. In addition, please CC > > execd@iab.org. > > > > The IAB would appreciate receiving comments by Tuesday, 2019-10-08. > > > > Best regards, > > Cindy Morgan > > IAB Executive Administrative Manager > > _______________________________________________ > > rfc-interest mailing list > > rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest > > > _______________________________________________ > rfc-interest mailing list > rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org > https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest >
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Michael StJohns
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Michael StJohns
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… John C Klensin
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… John C Klensin
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Randy Bush
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Richard Barnes
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Mike StJohns
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Randy Bush
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Randy Bush
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Melinda Shore
- ietf@ list as a proxy for community opinion (not) Keith Moore
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… John C Klensin
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Nico Williams
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Randy Bush
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Michael StJohns
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… John C Klensin
- Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Sub… Ted Hardie