Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Submissions Editor

Michael StJohns <> Thu, 12 September 2019 19:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] IAB Seeks Feedback on Independent Submissions Editor
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Hi -

It seems like a singularly bad idea to be doing this review at this 
time, given all the uncertainty with the RSE and the upcoming RPC 
contract re-let.   I went looking for some mention of a term for the ISE 
in the various documents (RFC's 6635, 6548 and 4846) and didn't see 
anything that said more than the IAB appointed the ISE - e.g. nothing 
that would indicate this needs to be done *right now*.

Can I suggest we defer this to after the RSE process has made forward 
progress - perhaps until say after the March meeting?    Unless of 
course Adrian has asked to be replaced?

Later, Mike

On 9/10/2019 3:18 PM, IAB Executive Administrative Manager wrote:
> As part of its oversight responsibility for the Independent Stream, the
> IAB is soliciting comments from the community on the performance of the
> Independent Submissions Editor, Adrian Farrel. The IAB is interested in
> comments on the last two years of operation of the Independent Stream
> and Adrian's activities as ISE.
> Please send comments to In addition, please CC
> The IAB would appreciate receiving comments by Tuesday, 2019-10-08.
> Best regards,
> Cindy Morgan
> IAB Executive Administrative Manager
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