Re: Mailing list membership.

Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net> Wed, 01 March 2017 19:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: Mailing list membership.
To: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>
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From: Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net>
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On 3/1/2017 2:14 PM, Bob Hinden wrote:
>> In the short term, one thing I think would be helpful is to identify for the IETF participants which email providers are known to use DMARC and maybe also a list of providers that are known not to.   Maybe add it to the IETF mailing list page athttps://www.ietf.org/list/  with an explanation of what's been happening.
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> This is a good idea.  Taking it a step further, perhaps a warning could be included when subscribing to an IETF list from an email provider who is known to use DMARC.
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> Bob
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I like that.

Actually, split the difference to start with - its probably a coding 
pass to personalize a warning based on provider.  So do a) Add a warning 
to the IETF mailing list page, b) add a warning to the confirm message 
that's sent out when you subscribe that contains the warning regardless 
of provider, and c) eventually customize the confirm message based on 
provider.

Mike