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Re: Mailing list membership.

willi uebelherr <willi.uebelherr@riseup.net> Tue, 28 February 2017 20:29 UTC

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On 28/02/2017 02:18, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> ...
> Or, people who are using broken, non-standards compliant mail systems
> can move to ones which are compatible with internet mailing lists....
> - Ted

Dear Theodore,

related to the problem, what Khaled explained, what is your proposal?

What are your "compatible with internet mailing lists" mail systems?

Yahoo and Hotmail are not "compatible", or?

Mailman never change the "From"-header. Therefore, the From-Header 
always points to the author of the email. What you think, is that the 
correct, compatible way? I think, yes.

many greetings, willi

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