Re: Mailing list membership.

David Morris <dwm@xpasc.com> Wed, 01 March 2017 19:34 UTC

Return-Path: <dwm@xpasc.com>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5841298C4 for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 11:34:16 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.602
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.602 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7naeBgk9YXoC for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 11:34:13 -0800 (PST)
Received: from dispatch1-us1.ppe-hosted.com (dispatch1-us1.ppe-hosted.com [67.231.154.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A82A01298C2 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 11:34:13 -0800 (PST)
Received: from pure.maildistiller.com (unknown [10.110.50.25]) by dispatch1-us1.ppe-hosted.com (Proofpoint Essentials ESMTP Server) with ESMTP id B447C80168 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 19:34:13 +0000 (UTC)
X-Virus-Scanned: Proofpoint Essentials engine
Received: from mx1-us4.ppe-hosted.com (unknown [10.110.49.250]) by pure.maildistiller.com (Proofpoint Essentials ESMTP Server) with ESMTPS id A0E0180051 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 19:34:12 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from xpasc.com (96-82-113-225-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [96.82.113.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1-us4.ppe-hosted.com (Proofpoint Essentials ESMTP Server) with ESMTPS id 8EB1880060 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 19:34:10 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from egate.xpasc.com (egate.xpasc.com [10.1.2.49]) by xpasc.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v21JY9Mv007544 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 11:34:09 -0800
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2017 11:34:09 -0800
From: David Morris <dwm@xpasc.com>
To: IETF <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Mailing list membership.
In-Reply-To: <C796CA13-8D43-4423-9559-B1B494AB50BE@tzi.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.01.1703011132580.3764@egate.xpasc.com>
References: <6.2.5.6.2.20170226124145.0b7b38c0@elandnews.com> <20f0d769-1937-3256-e37b-9583399c11d3@riseup.net> <20170227011852.GA5403@mx4.yitter.info> <5850e685-2f97-2bdb-87e2-0c11830e1d1c@riseup.net> <HE1PR04MB14490315646CDD5CC7DC2DBCBD570@HE1PR04MB1449.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> <ae531393-b622-a8b3-2cdd-65a4e99c6e9f@riseup.net> <HE1PR04MB14490DE8834559F6D9D05F7EBD570@HE1PR04MB1449.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> <60cc8784-2815-32df-0cae-7adfffd0b549@riseup.net> <20170228051843.wkh5skthuyrs5pwz@thunk.org> <bea06868-c7b9-29ec-4f63-1adcca3b9698@riseup.net> <20170301044937.v3vhw3eqgqkxpoup@thunk.org> <cfb52458-8bb9-58fe-d80a-f1b17a6da6cc@comcast.net> <947BCD81-7F9C-4C2E-ADDE-D68DD2BF513A@gmail.com> <70ebe3f4-bae5-7b65-a8ba-b90fdc38dbb8@comcast.net> <C796CA13-8D43-4423-9559-B1B494AB50BE@tzi.org>
User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (LRH 1266 2009-07-14)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII"
X-MDID: 1488396853-Gbu9kU+Neyer
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/hwe2gsTQF1yfa92vk_URUHDL4xw>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2017 19:34:16 -0000


On Wed, 1 Mar 2017, Carsten Bormann wrote:

> On 1 Mar 2017, at 20:18, Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > eventually customize the confirm message based on provider
>
> Better: Send the subscription confirmation message with attributes that cause a DMARC-honoring provider to discard it :-)
> (No programming required :-)

No, that is worse as it insures support costs and more noise on this list.