Re: Poster sessions

[Ed Juskevicius <[e-mail]>]

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Regards,

Ed  J



On 1/6/11, Marshall Eubanks <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:16 AM, Yoav Nir wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>>
>>> I've never attended an IETF meeting.  Why?  Because it seems to me quite
>>> unlikely to have a chance to say something useful by going there.  I mean
>>> useful with respect to a problem that I consider important.  That is, not
>>> just a minimal contribution to an already scheduled session that I may
>>> happen
>>> to attend.  Perhaps, I should request a session...
>>>
>>> Problems are often expressed in the form of tentative solutions.  Such
>>> solutions may occasionally happen to be discussed, refined, and agreed
>>> upon
>>> by a group of individuals.  Implementation, standardization, and adoption
>>> may
>>> eventually follow  --not necessarily in this order.  Isn't this how the
>>> IRTF
>>> and the IETF should work?
>>>
>>> A poster session would be a sort of plenary, lasting a couple of hours or
>>> so,
>>> with posters hanged on numbered hardboard panels arranged along a
>>> walkway.  A
>>> poster may be sized A0, or ~50 in, or consist of an equivalent number of
>>> smaller sheets.  Posters may stay exposed for a few hours before/after
>>> the
>>> scheduled time period.  During the session time, however, authors should
>>> stand beside their posters and thus have their chance to talk to any
>>> interested ietfers, one by one or in small knots, informally.  A few
>>> dozens
>>> of posters per session may provide for adequate gathering.
>>>
>>> IME, this way of participating is easier and less binding for both
>>> authors
>>> and attendees.  A poster would suit subjects for which it's difficult to
>>> carve a niche within a hosting WG's session, but it may also work as a
>>> means
>>> to achieve consensus on a given topic before raising it in a more
>>> official
>>> discussion.
>>>
>>> Opinions/suggestions?
>>
>> Hi Alessandro.
>>
>> Following the Maastricht meeting, there was a lively discussion of a
>> similar issue. The way things are, you need a lot of support to present an
>> idea at a BoF, so the usual way to present new things has become to
>> publish a "bar BoF" and present there. Despite the name, the modern bar
>> BoF is not held in a bar, but rather in the empty conference rooms during
>> lunch time and late in the evening.  Understandably, people don't like
>> this much.
>>
>> There have been a few suggestions for alternate ways of presenting and
>> gathering supporters. One such suggestion is in this draft:
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nir-non-wg-presentations-01
>>
>> A poster session sounds cool, but it works well when the presenters are
>> companies, rather than individuals. To get a good A0 poster, you need
>> access to printing services (which are not cheap, but doable) and graphic
>> design talent, which is neither cheap nor common in IETF attendees.  To
>> get such a poster up, I would need either my company's sponsorship, or
>> else use my own talents in graphic design: Hmm, #12FF12. Now there's a
>> nice shade of green for a background. As for fonts, let's go with Mistral,
>> because http://www.cracked.com/funny-5647-fonts .
>
> I am neutral on the overall idea, but in many (most?) academic conferences
> in a poster session you get a pin board (hopefully with a bunch of pins),
> which lends itself well to pinning up a set of printed out slides. I have
> seen many fine poster session presentations from people with very little
> money, so
> I don't agree it unduly favors the well sponsored. And it has one great
> advantage...
>
>
>>
>> Seriously, though, most of the presentation slides you see in an IETF
>> meeting are either black-on-white with way too much text,
>
> ... in that you can read the slides with too much text at your leisure if
> you want to, rather than having them flash by unread.
>
> I am not sure it would fit well with the "IETF ecosystem," as it takes time
> to scan through a bunch of posters, and it takes time to stand
> by your poster and answer any questions, and time is always short at an
> IETF. Maybe we could just have them in the halls and call them a "hall-BOF."
>
> Regards
> Marshall
>
>
>> sometimes adding some default design from the software, or else they're
>> extremely well designed, where you know there's been some company
>> sponsorship.  Some of the Internet-of-Things presentations in recent IETF
>> meetings are examples of the latter. I think that's too high a bar to set
>> for new ideas that still don't have much traction.
>>
>> It could be done with some booths instead of the posters - maybe some
>> desks arranged around a room.
>>
>> Yoav
>>
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