Re: Will mailing lists survive DMARC?

[Andrew Sullivan <[e-mail]>]

On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 01:22:31PM +0200, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:

> I would really like to see the standards process for this mechanism
> be stopped 

Since it's an ISE stream document and its intended status is
"Informational", there is no standards process.  (If one thinks, "Yes,
but everyone treats RFCs as standards," then that's a different
discussion to the current one.)


On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 01:28:38PM +0200, Patrik Fältström wrote:
> 
> I ask myself as well what the problem is.
> 
> If there was collateral damage on third parties, that would for me have been a different thing. 

The issue is that the operators in this case are externalizing their
problem.  The operator makes the decision and establishes a policy
that causes mailing list postings from addresses inside the operator's
domain of control to bounce.  The person who has to cope with those
bounces is the mailing list manager, and _not_ the mail domain
operator.  The cost of the side effect is not actually borne by the
mail domain operator.  So there certainly is damage to someone other
than the operator of the mail domain (or its customers).

Best regards,

A

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