Re: Rights in early RFCs

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Sun, 16 June 2019 08:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: Rights in early RFCs
To: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>, ietf@ietf.org
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From: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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On 6/16/19 4:24 AM, Joel M. Halpern wrote:

> The Trust Legal Provisions give everyone the right to "to copy, 
> publish, display and distribute unmodified portions of IETF 
> Contributions and IETF Documents".  That seems pretty clear to me.  
> They have to attribute it properly.  And they have to keep our 
> legends.  (Which they may not have gotten quite right, and is one of 
> the things the trust will need to make sure they do get right.)
>
> Given that the wording says "portions", I do not see that we can 
> complain about their copying several portions.

I believe there's still a distinction between copying/publishing/etc. 
"portions", and creating a derivative work.   Changing the meaning of 
the quoted text is arguably producing a derivative work.

Keith