Re: Rights in early RFCs

John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Sun, 16 June 2019 13:26 UTC

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2019 09:26:43 -0400
From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
To: Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>, ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Rights in early RFCs
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--On Sunday, 16 June, 2019 13:32 +0900 Masataka Ohta
<mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> wrote:

>...
> Free quotation is internationally permitted by Berne
> convention:
> 
> https://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/text.jsp?file_id=283698
> Article 10
> Certain Free Uses of Works:
> 1. Quotations;
>...

So, to gain insight into the status of a document written by an
author living and working in the US, and published by a US
institution that was doing its work under contracts that flowed
from the US governmnet, we are citing a treaty which the US did
not ratify/join until 1988 in support of what can be done with a
document published in 1980, a document whose copyright has
almost certainly expired?

Colleagues, can an we please stop the amateur lawyering?  It is
not, at least IMO, helpful, nor does it address the question
that, AFAICT, John Levine was asking when the thread started.

    john