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Re: Rights in early RFCs

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Sun, 16 June 2019 08:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: Rights in early RFCs
To: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>, ietf@ietf.org
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From: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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On 6/16/19 1:26 AM, Joel M. Halpern wrote:

> I think there are two separate issues.
>
> First, the way they structured their profile, they were making 
> verbatim quotes, and then putting there own text around taht.  As far 
> as I can tell, in terms of our copyright rules, we have said they have 
> the right to do that.  I believe the trust will have to tell them that 
> they have those rights.

I'm not sure that's actually true.   What's fairly clear (for various 
reasons) is that they are free to reproduce the document in its 
entirety.   It's not clear (to me at least) that they are free to 
produce derivative works.   As for quoting, they may have some right to 
do that in the US under fair use doctrine, but only for specific 
purposes and within certain boundaries.   And the boundaries of fair use 
are for the courts to decide, not the trust.

Keith

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