IAOC != IETF Trust? [was: draft-hardie-iaoc-iab-update-00.txt]

[Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]>]

On one particular issue:
On 04/02/2016 18:01, John C Klensin wrote:
...
> More important, the decision to
> constitute the IETF Trust by making the Trustees the membership
> of the IAOC occurred at a particular time and under particular
> (perhaps even peculiar) circumstances.   The period during which
> we couldn't change those arrangements expired years ago.  I
> don't remember the issue being discussed, at least in recent
> years, but it appears to me that, the occasional request to
> create a derived work from an IETF document aside, most of the
> responsibilities of the Trust and Trustees are strategic, which
> most of the IOAC's rule is, as the name implies, administrative
> functions, budgeting, and managing the IAD and other contractual
> functions.  It appears to me that argues much more strongly for
> separating the two than for making one less effective in order
> to preserve the "same membership" relationship.

Logically that is certainly true, although membership of the
two bodies should probably overlap for practical reasons. However,
I think another (unwritten) argument back in 2005 was simply
to avoid adding yet another appointment process for the Trust,
twisting the arms of another set of volunteers, and so on. That
argument still seems valid.

    Brian

P.S. I don't remember an anointment ceremony either. It was more
like baptism by fire.