Re: Alternative Proposal for Two-Stage IETF Standardization

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 09 November 2010 23:59 UTC

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Hi,

I could live with this. I could live with draft-housley-two-maturity-levels.
I could also live with draft-dawkins-pstmt-twostage (2003), or
draft-atkinson-newtrk-twostep (2006), or even draft-carpenter-newtrk-twostep (2005).

For that matter I could live with draft-loughney-newtrk-one-size-fits-all (2006).
We do, after all having running code proof that a single stage standards
process works just fine. (In case that isn't obvious, the running code
is called 'the Internet' and the single stage is called 'proposed standard'.)

Just one tiny nit in draft-crocker-ietf-twostage-00. 'IS' is the abbreviation
for International Standard, as in IS8473. It's worth steering clear of
that confusion. Beyond that, I just don't care which variant we choose.

Regards
   Brian Carpenter

On 2010-11-10 04:24, Dave CROCKER wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> A few of us have formulated an alternative proposal for streamlining the
> IETF standards process.  We hope that it at least adds to the mix of
> discussion in the community.
> 
> d/
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: I-D Action:draft-crocker-ietf-twostage-00.txt
> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 07:15:02 -0800
> From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> 
>     Title           : Two-Stage IETF Standardization
>     Author(s)       : S. Dawkins, et al.
>     Filename        : draft-crocker-ietf-twostage-00.txt
>     Pages           : 8
>     Date            : 2010-11-09
> 
> RFC 2026 specifies a three-stage Standards Track.  As currently
> practiced, IETF standards track documents typically attain only the
> first stage.  This proposal discusses the problems caused by the
> disparity between documented procedures and actual practice, and
> proposes a simplified, two-step standard track, which will streamline
> the IETF standardization process, with distinct benefits for each
> stage.  Clarification of the criteria for handling documents re-
> submitted as Proposed Standard is also provided.
> 
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