Re: Can the USA welcome IETF
Eduardo Mendez <eduamendez@gmail.com> Tue, 18 October 2005 02:45 UTC
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:45:49 +0200
From: Eduardo Mendez <eduamendez@gmail.com>
To: Bill Manning <bmanning@karoshi.com>
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2005/10/17, Bill Manning <bmanning@karoshi.com>: > M. Eduardo, > > i am persaded that you are inconsistent at best. first you state: > > > >This is may be we do not share the same culture. > >Every culture is to be respected. > > and then you state: > > > On Oct 17, 2005, at 10:04, Eduardo Mendez wrote: > > >IETF culture is no interest. > > > Please respect the IETF culture just as you would have us respect your > culture. I am awfully sorry you understood this way. I wanted to say the IETF culture is of no interest in a legal case. What counts if IETF goes to courts is: - what Mr. Dean has signed - what he and othes have done wich is illegal May be RFC 3683 is even a bad thing. If IETF says: this my rule. And if the judge think it is a bad rule. I think I will stop on this RFC. I even make the debate couterproductive. I hurt others like Mr. Bill without wanting it. I just wanted to say: - my ethic is shoked by this RFC. - we should check with an international lawyer. I apologiese if I hurted others. I thank you for your time. Eduardo Mendez _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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- Re: Can the USA welcome IETF (was: Last Call unde… Spencer Dawkins
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- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF Eduardo Mendez
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