Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF
Sandy Wills <sandy@WEIJax.com> Tue, 18 October 2005 02:52 UTC
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(Sorry about this. I sent a private email to Sr. Mendez, in hopes of explaining to him, in terms that he could understand, that he may have some misconceptions. Hhe chose to reply on ietf@ietf.org.) Eduardo Mendez wrote: > I think you are misunderstanding what I say. To be blunt, I don't "misunderstand" you. I don't understand your point at all, and I'm now positive that you are looking for an argument without bothering to look for facts. > Then you did not read his post. Sorry. _I_ thought I read it, and _I_ was there, when I thought I read it. Were _you_ there, when I thought I was reading it, to know if I was really reading it or not? >>Because of this, in just under a month, the IESG is going to make a >>decision about whether to bar Dean from posting to IETF mailing lists >>for [some time / forever]. > I see you did not read RFC 3683. Again, bluntly, the private email you were replying to QUOTED THE RFC IN QUESTION VERBATIM, WITH SURROUNDING MARKS TO IDENTIFY THE QUOTE. What was your clue that I didn't read it? >> I don't personally know all the facts in this case. I'm not on the >>IESG and won't be involved with the decision, except the same way you >>are: making sure that everything is fair, honest, and open. > > > Yes. And this is why there is no reason to dispute. > All I say is: before applying RFC 3683 let make sure it is legal. Legal where? In the USA, where corporate law says that corporations must have rules, and follow them? That would be the RFC that I quoted in my email to you, that you say I haven't read, wouldn't it? Enough. I will ignore any further messages from Sr. Mendez on this subject. -- Unable to locate coffee. Operator halted. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- Re: Can the USA welcome IETF Melinda Shore
- Can the USA welcome IETF (was: Last Call under RF… Eduardo Mendez
- Re: Can the USA welcome IETF (was: Last Call unde… Marc Manthey
- Was: Last Call under RFC 3683 [...] Frank Ellermann
- Re: Can the USA welcome IETF (was: Last Call unde… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: Can the USA welcome IETF (was: Last Call unde… David Kessens
- Re: Can the USA welcome IETF (was: Last Call unde… Spencer Dawkins
- Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF (was: Last Call und… Eduardo Mendez
- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF (was: Last Call… Noel Chiappa
- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF (was: Last Call… Eduardo Mendez
- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF (was: Last Call… Dave Singer
- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF Scott W Brim
- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF Eduardo Mendez
- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF Eduardo Mendez
- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF Scott W Brim
- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF bill
- Re: Can the USA welcome IETF Ted Hardie
- Re: Can the USA welcome IETF william(at)elan.net
- Re: Can the USA welcome IETF Bill Manning
- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF (was: Last Call… Alexis Turner
- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF (was: Last Call… Dean Anderson
- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF Dean Anderson
- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF shogunx
- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF (was: Last Call… Sandy Wills
- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF Dean Anderson
- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF Eduardo Mendez
- Re: Can the USA welcome IETF Eduardo Mendez
- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF Sandy Wills
- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF (was: Last Call… Doug Ewell
- Please be relevant and professional [Re: Fwd: Can… Brian E Carpenter
- Objective statements about behaviour [Re: Fwd: Ca… Brian E Carpenter
- Correcting error about RFC 3683 [Re: Fwd: Can the… Brian E Carpenter
- Correcting errors about IETF [Re: Fwd: Can the US… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Correcting errors about IETF [Re: Fwd: Can th… JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: Correcting errors about IETF [Re: Fwd: Can th… Dean Anderson
- Re: Fwd: Can the USA welcome IETF (was: Last Call… Dean Anderson