Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers
Kurt Erik Lindqvist <kurtis@kurtis.pp.se> Thu, 10 July 2008 11:06 UTC
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From: Kurt Erik Lindqvist <kurtis@kurtis.pp.se>
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Subject: Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers
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On 8 jul 2008, at 20.41, Keith Moore wrote: >> 1) I do understand where the current "last 64 bits are EUId" comes >> from. >> 2) Someone (I think it was Keith Moore) said that if the scheme >> doesn't work for servers AND hosts (i.e no difference) it's a bad >> scheme. I sort of agree with that, but the reason it doesn't work >> for servers is simply lack of management tools, and the fact that a >> lot of protocols / implementations tend to use addresses rather >> than names. > > I disagree that it doesn't work for servers. (Or it would be > better to say that I'd like to know why you think it doesn't work > for servers.) Well, when I change that broken NIC in my server, it will receive a new address that needs to be reflected in the DNS. Sure, that can be automated or updated, but in general you want some stability in the server address. I have actually run my personal mail-server on an EUI-64 address for quite some time. The problem when the NIC failed was that it took until the cache expiry for some servers to contact it again. Like ietf.org. There are other addresses, like router interfaces where EUI64 addresses are simply a nightmare, as when you are doing network troubleshooting you need to keep 128 bits in HEX in memory - which I am too stupid to be able to...an alternative would be to have routing tables do DNS lookups for NEXT_HOPS - it's just a lot of DNS lookups.... Best regards, - kurtis - _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Bill Manning
- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Jeroen Massar
- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers John Levine
- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Dave Crocker
- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Keith Moore
- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Keith Moore
- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers John Levine
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- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Keith Moore
- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Mark Andrews
- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Bill Manning
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- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Mark Andrews
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- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers John C Klensin
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- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Keith Moore
- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers kent
- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Ned Freed
- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Dave Crocker
- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Francis Dupont
- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Keith Moore
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- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Kurt Erik Lindqvist
- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Keith Moore
- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Kurt Erik Lindqvist
- Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers Jeroen Massar