Re: @EXT: RE: United Nations report on Internet standards

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Fri, 03 April 2020 01:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: @EXT: RE: United Nations report on Internet standards
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From: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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On 4/2/20 9:19 PM, Bron Gondwana wrote:

>>> For sure that in the antispam world, the ability to see patterns 
>>> across a large set of messages is invaluable for classifying 
>>> messages, and looking at each message right at the endpoints in 
>>> isolation is much less effective.
>>
>> Well, sure, but that's not a justification for email to be 
>> transmitted in cleartext.
>>
>
> It might be a justification for email not being delivered directly to 
> people's eyeballs

I'm not aware of any email system that delivers messages directly to 
people's eyeballs.   There are MSAs and message stores.

Or to put it differently, if people want to use an email system that 
delivers mail directly to their eyeballs, they're giving up one kind of 
spam filtering by making that choice.   Which might be a reasonable 
choice for some and not for others.

Keith