Re: [EAI] UTF-8 in Message-IDs

Frank Ellermann <> Thu, 06 October 2011 00:35 UTC

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On 6 October 2011 00:53, Julien ÉLIE wrote:

>> The mailto: URLs are almost  ready for EAI, and the
>> news: URLs can be "fixed" by an erratum.

> Wouldn't it be proper to update the RFCs instead of
> adding an erratum?
> (which would probably be "held for document update")

> It is not an error; it is a technical update.

The EAI mailto: IRIs are documented in an existing I-D:

news: IRIs are documented in 5538, modulo one erroneous
statement (if this WG gets its amended will in an IETF
Last Call.)  I'm not aware of "implementation reports"
or any other reasons justifying more work than a simple
"erratum":  The secrets of percent-encoding are already
covered by 3986 + 3987 + 5538.

Maybe if Usefor and/or NNTP are updated for EAI it could
make sense to work on a 5538bis.  But as long as Usenet
sticks to 5322/5536 Message-IDs that point is moot.

> Incidentally, we could try to do some work on USEAGE
> too, if Charles agrees.

Well, I'm willing to review drafts, IIRC there were some
pending IANA issues to be covered in USEAGE or "manually".

Otherwise I'm not much tempted by serious IETF work at
the moment, unless it is about 4408bis, 5321bis, 6068bis.

> I hope it will not split Usenet into two distinct
> "feeding areas":  the UTF-8-aware one (with UTF-8
> moderated newsgroup names, message-IDs, etc.) and the
> legacy one.

My best wishes for this hope,